also nottingham forrest what are the chances and timetable on them rturning to top league. thanks in advance for info
Yes. Both will unless they fold. As to when? Probably within 5 years for both, almost certainly within 10. If you have better support than your peers then promotion in inevitible given time. "When" just depends on the competence of the club. Despite winning the european cup twice, Nottingham Forest have never been a big club. They are a strong medium-sized club that brilliantly punched far above their weight for a short time.
Leeds just gave me a text, they'll be back over around 9pm. Seems like Forest might leave it until tomorrow.
For Leeds it could be about 3-4 years. They are just getting out of debt, it will take a while to rebuild their squad (around Eddie Lewis) and get back into promotion hopes.
Who the fuck is Eddie Lewis? That question answers, in part, the question posed by this thread, by the way.
Doesn't look like Leeds are going up this year...well Palace went up a few years ago when they were in the relegation zone at christmas. Forest look to be heading for the championship, so mabey a few years for them.
No neither teams will be back Leeds had there chance this year and blew it and Nottingham just I don't even think it's possible.
There is no reason why they should go back to the premiership. You cant trade on names from the past these days.
You can trade on being the only professional club in a major city, with facilities and infrastructure to match though. They'll be back. Three years tops.
well, in order to get back to the Prem... they have to get back to the championship... they are going down this year... Super Leeds my arse!
Leeds' advantage isn't that strong, their crowds are way down from years ago, and they're in debt, they have little financial advantage over other teams in the league. Even if they had money, the decent players in the Championship are interested foremost in promotion, so they'd join the team that they thought most likely to be promoted, i.e. Birmingham or Derby. Even if Leeds could offer substantially more money due to being the only professional team in a decent sized city, they'd want to get to the Premiership so wouldn't sign for a team that might be in league one next year.
Nottingham Forest will win promotion to the Championship this year. Don't know that they're moving up to the Prem anytime soon though. Leeds should be back in the Prem within the next few years. After all, if they had beaten Watford in the playoff final last year, they'd be in it right now. The big problem for them is that this year they may well get relegated to League One, which would be a huge setback. I think they can scrape together the players to avoid that (barely) this year. After that, it will only be a short matter of time, because of all the money that is pouring into English football. With so many investors pouring money into the semi-big Premiership clubs, Leeds becomes an obvious target for investment, since they are one of a handful of clubs with the potential to become a big earner in the Premiership if they become successful on the pitch again. A Preston or Derby type club will never pull down the kind of income that a rejuvenated Leeds will. And the argument that money isn't enough to attract players to a struggling club is nonsense. Success in the Championship is fleeting. Just look at Leeds' fall from last year, or conversely look at Derby, one of the supposedly preferable clubs, since they're currently sitting on a playoff spot. They finished 20th last year.
Right. And Sheffield Wednesday are the 4th best. Unfortunately, the size of the crowd doesn't mean much. If it did, then Sunderland, Norwich, Derby, Wednesday and Southampton would all be in the EPL, and Fulham, Blackburn, Portsmouth, Watford and Wigan would be in the Championship.
Well they won't be back next year thats for sure the way things are going for them, though in the next 5 years they'll be back i'm sure. They might do a Man City, get relegated to league 1 and get promoted twice.
it matters a fair bit, but the effect isn't immediate. Colchester are doing fantastically with crowds of 5000, but as time goes by they'll find it impossible to field a competitive team and will go down. It may take a few years, but sadly it'll happen. Similarly, those with good support will be able to field better teams. It doesn't mean they are guaranteed to finish higher than worse supported teams, but given time (and good management) and they will. It's not an accident that premiership clubs are on the whole bigger than their CCC counterparts, and so forth for all the divisions below.