Why the US Open Cup?

Discussion in 'US Open Cup' started by fscat, May 3, 2005.

  1. fscat

    fscat Member

    May 2, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    First off, I'm not saying they shouldn't have this competition, but just asking what's it's purpose. Who qualifies for it? And what's its significance?
     
  2. jackrock

    jackrock Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Talcott. WV
    Club:
    DC United
    Its the oldest soccer tourney in the US.
     
  3. Gunners11

    Gunners11 Member

    Jul 22, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It's the oldest soccer competition in the United States. Any professional team can qualify for it, and they have it because it's a tournament, why do they have the FA Cup? The winner is the best club team in the United States.
     
  4. fscat

    fscat Member

    May 2, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    So they have had this tourney since the days of the Chicago Sting and the Comets?
     
  5. jackrock

    jackrock Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Talcott. WV
    Club:
    DC United
    dude, are you serious?
    its been held longer than NY has had the Yankees. do a google.
     
  6. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. fscat

    fscat Member

    May 2, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    Yeah, I'm serious. I just have no idea about club competition for the most part. I've been a soccer fan all my life, but been more of a fan of international soccer. I've only very, very recently gotten into club soccer. Therefore, I know very little about club soccer competition, the tournaments, etc. I've posted topics on other boards asking about the UEFA Cup, and Champions Cup.
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    It's not limited to pro teams. Any pro or amateur team in a league sanctioned by the U.S. Soccer Federation is eligible to participate, though all leagues below MLS use qualifiers to gain entry into the main tournament itself.
     
  9. jackrock

    jackrock Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Talcott. WV
    Club:
    DC United
    I found another site that stated 1912, actually, so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, jackson!

    ;)
     
  10. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    ummmmmmmm The NY Yankees have been around since 1903.
     
  11. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    Andy you forgot about the change this year. USL 1st Division gets automatic bids now.
     
  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Yup. I played in it when I was a weeee lad of 17 and again at 18 as part of my town's team. Qualifying was different in them days, since the NASL teams didn't compete. Of course, we would've been about 12-15 wins away from getting anywhere near one of those even if they did play.
     
  13. jackrock

    jackrock Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Talcott. WV
    Club:
    DC United

    Claen up, aisle 9, clean up aisle 9. severe anal rentive leakage
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Every team in USL1 is in the main tournament?
     
  15. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It pre-dates the NFL, NBA and NHL.
     
  16. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually the Yankees have been around since 1913. From 1903-1912, they were the Highlanders.
     
  17. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes.

    The bottom 4 US-based A-League teams from last year start in the 2nd round of this year's tournament, and the top 4 2004 finishers start in the 3rd round.
     
  18. Jegao Paraiba

    Jegao Paraiba Member

    Aug 6, 2004
    Morgantown, WV
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's really fun to look through the past winners from way back in the day.

    It's almost a geographical history of immigramt groups and labor unions in the USA.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I didn't realise the A-League (USL1) was down to only 8 U.S. teams. Yikes.
     
  20. SeattleFan

    SeattleFan New Member

    Mar 4, 2000
    Redmond, WA USA
    Just to be clear, the Canadian teams and the Puerto Rican team in USL-1 are not in the tourney, only the US teams.
     
  21. jimmyco

    jimmyco Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Aurora, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The pre-cursor (not the same tourney, mind) to the Open Cup (predates the Yankees):
    http://www.sover.net/~spectrum/americancup.html


    And I have to agree with the earlier post, "dude, are you serious?" Can't believe you haven't checked out/found this site (the Mecca of US footy):
    http://www.sover.net/~spectrum/index.html
     
  22. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I didn't see the list of champs posted yet, so here it is...

    http://www.soccerhall.org/US_Open_Cup_Champions.htm

    And I think the original poster might not be clear on the fact that the NASL didn't enter (can't recall why). I doubt if the New York Pancyrian Freedoms would've troubled the Cosmos very much, but they might've been able to embarrass a couple of the league's lesser lights. Of course, my guess is that the USOC was conducted under international rules (no 35-yard line for offside, etc), so maybe that had something to do with it.

    Of course, if you've never been to the site Jimmyco linked, get off bigsoccer for a few days and learn more about the game's history in the US. It's the best site I know of for American soccer.
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    http://pointme.to/soccer/usopencup.htm

    scroll down for a better list, as this one mentions the runners up, too. I seem to remember a more detailed list out there, but my google-mojo isn't working today.
     
  24. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How 'bout this one?

    ...damn. He's really upgraded that site! There's a lot of details in there about each year's tournament.
     
  25. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...actually, it looks like it was culled from Dave's Year in Soccer pieces.
     

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