Why the Republicans shouldn't use new media

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  1. roby

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    They forgot to list the threat from within! :oops:
     
  2. raza_rebel

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    QQ for the 1A experts in here. I know freedom of speech has restrictions in the workplace, but what if a high profile employee does something in the public eye?

    If it was at work, big miscalculation by Miller. If it was at his home while he was shuffling around, is that a different story? *

    Jason Miller, Former Trump Aide, Loses Job After Nadler Tweetstorm


    *I don't like the guy. BTW
     
  3. chaski

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    First Amendment only prohibits government abridgement of freedom of speech, so it does not apply to his private employer.
     
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  4. InTheSun

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    If I bring any unwanted attention to my employer I'm gone. Under the law I have no recourse. Personally I'm ok with that.
     
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  5. Dr. Wankler

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    On a few occasions my wife, as a college administrator, has had to discipline or dismiss a faculty member for douchy behavior beyond what tenure protects. She knows her decision will stand when the offending faculty member claims first amendment protections. From there, it often will get cringe-worthy when the person claims to have gotten "support from the ACLU, so you better give me back my job or you will lose the lawsuit..." Etc.

    There are groups that might help a beleagured profesor whose mouth or keyboard has brought trouble upon him or her, but so far as I know, not the ACLU.
     
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

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    This question has exploded in Australia in the Israel Folau scandal.

    Folau is Australia's top rugby star on a multi-million contract with huge endorsements

    Recently he posted on social media some content about gays going to hell because he is a staunch christian. He had been warned by Rugby Australia never to do this again after a previous incident.

    Rugby Australia's G Rated sponsors got angry about this, and demanded Rugby Australia take action. Their statements were to the effect that as large consumer brands, this is not the type of bigoted speech that they want to be associated with.

    Folau was ultimately fired under his contract which included a 20+ page code of conduct and social media policy which specifically banned this kind of content. I believe that decision is clearly correct. Rugby Australia sells this content to sponsors and broadcasters, and it is hardly surprising it therefore strictly controls the behaviour of its public stars. Folau had refused to meet with Rugby Australia, or delete the tweet. At an employment hearing under his contract, Folau's appeal was dismissed.

    Folau is now suing Rugby Australia claiming the contract breached his religious freedoms.

    IMO his suit is doomed to failure, but it is a very interesting case on this issue!
     
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  7. yossarian

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    You wouldn't believe the number of folks who will screw up this sort of hypothetical on the bar exam.

    ....or maybe you would believe it.
     
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  8. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    "Western Michigan Law grad here!"
     

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  9. chaski

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    :eek:
    I hope they failed.
     
  10. Dr. Wankler

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    That was one of the aforementioned hysteria-inducing case that The American Conservative used as proof that Christians will soon be rounded up and executed should the left ever attain power.

    the possibility that this is another example of conservative projection is a wee bit worrisome.
     
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  11. NORML

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    President originally tagged the wrong Rapinoe. :laugh:
     
  12. taosjohn

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    Well, y'know, I'm finding the idea a little bit more attractive every day, myself.
     
  13. soccernutter

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    That sounds like an evangelical position, not really just a conservative position.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

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    There are a lot of conservative Catholics and some Orthodox (like the editor of TAC) who tend to think like that
     
  15. diablodelsol

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    In a bar, sure. But in the bar exam? Tell me you’re not being serious.
     
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  16. rslfanboy

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    Are you trying to get Brummie banned?
     
  17. yossarian

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    I'm not being serious. [that's a lie]
     
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  18. American Brummie

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    In all seriousness, I don't care if the policies are extreme. I don't. I started a thread about stopping Republicans from voting until we fix our political institutions.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

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    Yes it's complete nonsense.

    He is now free to spout his gay hate on Twitter. It's just that he can't expect Qantas and co to pay him to do it.

    Indeed if he were an employee of a US company, he could be sacked without cause by his employer and no conservative would speak against that
     
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  20. raza_rebel

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  21. dapip

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  22. JohnR

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    That Riley guy worked at the wrong university. Those tweets would have got him promoted at Yale.
     
  23. Dr. Wankler

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    I had to google (well, actually, I had to duckduckgo) because twitter doesn't play nice with my iPad. This turned up.

    https://reason.com/2019/09/06/alabama-dean-jamie-riley-resign-breitbart/

    The headline is "Alabama Dean Resigns After Conservative Snowflakes Publicize His Old Tweets.


    Fainting-couch conservatism strikes again: A University of Alabama dean of students is out of a job after conservative media dug up some of his old tweets.

    Jamie Riley had dared to criticize the American flag and the police, writing in 2017 that they represent "a systemic history of racism for my people."

    Breitbart decided that this and other tweets of Riley's merited an article. Reporter Kyle Morris wrote that "a series of resurfaced tweets from Dr. Jamie R. Riley, the University of Alabama's assistant vice president and dean of students, show he once believed the American flag and police in America are racist." But the tweets didn't just resurface on their own—they were publicized by the right-wing news site in order to send a social media mob after Riley.​


    He'll likely find a better job.
     
  24. JohnR

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    Those liberals, they're always triggered.
     
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  25. superdave

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