Who wins: USMNT North America or USMNT Europe

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by ussoccer97531, Jan 28, 2014.

  1. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    USMNT North America

    GK: Nick Rimando, Sean Johnson, Bill Hamid
    RB: DeAndre Yedlin, Brad Evans, Michael Parkhurst
    CB: Matt Besler, Omar Gonzalez, Clarence Goodson, Shane O'Neill
    LB: DaMarcus Beasley, Edgar Castillo
    CM: Michael Bradley, Maurice Edu, Kyle Beckerman, Luis Gil
    wingers/AM's: Graham Zusi, Paul Arriola, Brad Davis
    Strikers: Eddie Johnson, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, Mike Magee

    On the Bubble: Tally Hall, Tony Beltran, Michael Orozco Fiscal, Amobi Okugo, Chris Klute, Greg Garza, Benny Feilhaber, Dax McCarty, Jose Torres, Herculez Gomez, Chris Wondolowski

    USMNT Europe

    GK: Tim Howard, Brad Guzan, Cody Cropper
    RB: Tim Chandler, Steve Cherundolo
    CB: Geoff Cameron, John Anthony Brooks, Will Packwood, Oguchi Onyewu
    LB: Eric Lichaj, Tim Ream
    CM: Jermaine Jones, Mix Diskerud, Danny Williams, Sacha Kljestan
    wingers/AM's: Fabian Johnson, Alejandro Bedoya, Brek Shea, Duane Holmes
    Strikers: Jozy Altidore, Aron Johannsson, Juan Agudelo, Terrence Boyd

    On the Bubble: David Yelldell, Jonathan Spector, Alfredo Morales, Zak Whitbread, Michael Hoyos, Seb Lleget, Andrew Wooten, Bobby Wood, Tony Taylor

    I tried to leave out players with long term injuries and players that haven't played a 1st team professional game. I also left out Friedel because he is retired from international duty and added Cropper even though he hasn't played a 1st team professional game yet because he has been called up by Klinsmann already.

    Starting Lineups

    USMNT North America

    GK: Nick Rimando
    RB: DeAndre Yedlin
    CB: Omar Gonzalez
    CB: Matt Besler
    LB: DaMarcus Beasley
    LCM: Maurice Edu
    RCM: Michael Bradley
    LM: Clint Dempsey
    RM: Graham Zusi
    AM: Landon Donovan
    CF: Eddie Johnson

    USMNT Europe

    GK: Tim Howard
    RB: Tim Chandler
    CB: Geoff Cameron
    CB: John Anthony Brooks
    LB: Fabian Johnson
    LCM: Jermaine Jones
    RCM: Mix Diskerud
    LM: Juan Agudelo
    RM: Alejandro Bedoya
    AM: Aron Johannsson
    CF: Jozy Altidore

    I think USMNT Europe is still stronger, and I think they would win 3-1. Who do you think would win?
     
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  2. Fernandont Scorres

    Jun 26, 2011
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For starting lineups,

    NA: I'd switch Edu with Beckerman, Bradley plays the box to box role
    EUR: Lichaj at LB, F. Johnson at LM, Agudelo out.

    These starting 11s look extremely even. Very close game, but for me the deciding factor is Landon Donovan against a Cameron-JAB CB pairing. I think Donovan bests them. Bradley-Beckerman is going to be more stable for 90 minutes than Jones-Diskerud as well.

    I do like Altidore, Johannsson, and F. Johnson together. You'd get chances created from those 3.
     
  3. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    North America has the edge in midfield...but not by much. GK, backline, and forwards are all heavily stacked in favor of Euros. I agree euro team would probably win. Either way, this would be an awesome friendly to see!
     
  4. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS team looks slow with a shaky back line. The Euro lineup doesn't have the same resumes but they have more pace/creativity in the attack and a better defense IMO outside of central mid field. The MLS flanks would get overrun.

    I'd bet on the Euro lineup. Think the Euro's have a better bench too.
     
  5. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They seem like pretty even teams; I'd love to see this match.
     
  6. Wessoman

    Wessoman Member+

    Sep 26, 2005
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Me too.
     
  7. ckl26

    ckl26 Member+

    Jul 21, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Euro lineup
     
  8. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    NA doesn't have the fullbacks and strikers to hang with Europe.
     
  9. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #9 AutoPenalti, Jan 29, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2014
    USMNT North America



    Rimando
    Yedlin — Gonzalez — Besler — Beasley
    Edu — Bradley
    Zusi — Donovan — Dempsey
    Eddie



    Howard
    Chandler — Cameron — Brooks — Fabian
    Williams
    Bedoya — Diskerud — Shea
    Altidore — Johannssson

    Europe wins 2-0.​

    You have better talent in Europe on the wing and up top then what MLS defenders can handle, hands down an Altidore and Johannsson combination, when done right, can be real deadly for defenders.
     
  10. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley's move to the MLS makes it more interesting but I still got Europe. Better strikers, better keepers, midfield is very close, and mls supposive strength at the backline with Besler and gonzo is a wash to jab and cam while Euro side has better outside backs.
     
  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #11 xbhaskarx, Jan 30, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2014
    What's funny is it was ridiculously uneven just recently, eg 2010 where aside from Donovan the NA group on the World Cup roster consisted of just Gomez, Buddle, Torres, Bornstein, and Findley... so basically Dononvan and Gomez.
    It's interesting how there has been a big increase in MLS and LigaMX players in the pool since then.
    Still, I'd say it just evened out in the last few months with Dempsey, Goodson, Bradley, Parkhurst, and Edu moving to MLS. Perhaps the trend began just before that, with Beasley, Feilhaber, and Johnson?

    Here are the guys who moved back to North America post-2010 World Cup:
     
  12. mthead14

    mthead14 Member

    Nov 5, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    ehm our starting outside backs are both from north america
     
  13. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cam seems to have won the RB spot and chandler might not be out of the picture just yet (both are better than Evans and Beasley). Then theirs Fabian who could and in my book should be moved back LB.
     
  14. mthead14

    mthead14 Member

    Nov 5, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Evans consistently started over Cameron,whether we agree or not. No evidence that Cam has won the job...
     
  15. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Evans got taken out after a poor showing and cam got the start where he balled out. I don't think we see Evans start at rb if cam is there. But nothing official. Just a very strong feeling.
     
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  16. StormingYank

    StormingYank Member

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I think the Euros definitely get on the board in that game... NA would really need to capitalize on any chances they can create.. overall i still think the euros but not by much
     
  17. danielh

    danielh Member

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I actually think North American wins here. Europe's got a lot of pace and strength, but I think the back 4 could handle the europeans. The NA front line is much more experienced, have a lot more minutes together -- I see them having much more of the ball in a game like this.

    2-1, North America.
     
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  18. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Euro backline has guys who haven't played together. USMNT America also has better midfield cohesion, in that the DM wil actually stay at home unlike Jones.
     
  19. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Since America has trained a lot more often together than Europe I give them the nod.
     
  20. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    This team is returning to action not a minute too soon, I tell you...
     
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  21. jaxonmills

    jaxonmills Member+

    Aug 26, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that, although the European team might have better talent / higher median transfer value, the NA team has a couple of advantages. Firstly, back line cohesion. Evans, Gonzalez, Besler, and Beasley have played a lot of games together in the last year. On an individual basis, I might choose the Euro team (especially if you include FJ in the back line), but I'd trust the NA back line more in this scrimmage. NA team will have better defensive midfield as well. Secondly, the NA team has more guys that can create chances. The Euro team has guys that can get on the end of chances in AJ and JA, but the NA team is no slouch in this regard either with EJ and Dempsey. But I think Donovan, Zusi, Bradley, and even Dempsey would provide better service and create more scoring opportunities than their Euro counterparts.

    With all that said, it's tough to pick a favorite. The only thing that would surprise me is if it wasn't a competitive game. I'll say 2-1 NA.
     
  22. Cool Hand Luke

    Cool Hand Luke Member+

    Aug 13, 2008
    Austin Texas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My unshakeable Bradley fanboyism mandates I go with NA.

    Make this happen US soccer! Wherever the pre WC camp is, have this game there as well, ask 5 dollars from fans to stream it live on the internet, donate half the proceeds to a charity. Just do it.

    It's almost as obvious as a Robert's Rebellion prequel movie.
     
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  23. Juan Caramelo

    Juan Caramelo Member

    Oct 17, 2013
    Club:
    DC United
    Two killer squads. But who's coaching them?

    That would be a huge factor in getting the most of these talented players. Maybe Roberto Martinez for the Euro-USA and Peter Vermes for the US-USA squad? If that were the case I'd say US-USA has the edge only cause MLS players are familiar with the league style and would have a better understanding of one another. The Euro players stem from different leagues with varying styles of play.
     
  24. ASRomaUSA

    ASRomaUSA Member+

    Jul 1, 2011
    Sciacca, Agrigento
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  25. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Michael Bradley now coming to NA gives the North Americans the edge. They've got the engine, the creative outlets, players that work well together and more cohesion. I think folks are overrating where the creativity comes from in Europe.

    Close game, but I gave NA the call.

    P.S. Great thread, and count me among those that would love to see it. Can this replace the Mexico friendly?
     

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