Roman empire Holy Roman Empire French Colonial Empire French Empire of Napoleon Macedonian Empire of Alexander the Great Mongol Empire British Empire Persian Empire United states empire I am not the most intellectual person so you would be right if you thought this was not my idea I dont know if the US is an empire but it is powerfull so it gets in the list My vote goes to the romans, i loved learning about them at school ,and they where around for ages Second goes to america, some one told me a stat that america had the military power to destroy the world 6 times over Third goes to the British Empire , it spread english all over the world Just realised this aint a current event or politics so you can delete if you wish i dont mind
No Egyptian? Spanish? Portuguese? Chinese? Mayan? Aztec? Persian? mmm never mind wouldn't want the Iranians to ruin the thread. etc. I could go on. What would the Byzantine empire go under? They have to get some credit for surviving for so long.
Sorry i did not think of them ones, egyptians should be there and the spanish and portuguese as they discovered the new world, this thread aint for me its for research for my partners coursework so i cannot really answer any questions, i dont know much, sorry x x
What's the criteria? For sheer longevity, its hard to beat the Roman/Byzantine Empire, for example, but at its height, the Mongol Empire was obviously bigger.
The Iberians didn't discover anything. Anyway Just putting those names out there Tell your friend that it is his/her opinion no need for help. Its not like there is a wrong or right answer. The big empire of the day thinks they are the sh*t and rightly so since they control everything. But then they become too arrogant and think that there way is always the best way. The other smaller nations/tribes/empires resent the main power. They keep advancing their technology and trying out new methods and sooner or later the big empire loses ground to the rest of the world and a new power emerges. And the cycle begins again.
hello nicephoras, could write the criteria then hunnie, i only know about romans, british and america, i am sure it wont take you long, x x
I dont think america will ever crumble and i dont mind because they are not a dictatorship and promote democracy can you give me your opinion plz, if you had to pick one
This should really go into the History sub forum. Rome is the leading empire of choice for me. The GB.
Promote democracy? Backing military dictators in latin america during the cold war, having good relations with the Saudi and Pakistani governments. I could go on and on. Don't be silly they are just like the rest. Sure the US has helped out millions heck billions of people. But democracy takes a backseat sometimes even if it does affect other people. Protect your own ass first. Thats a general rule in empires or nation states. And lay down the criteria for discussing the greatest empire. Because the discussion will become to disorganized.
Criteria erm, time,military power, medicine, language, science, discoveries, size I think america trumps all cos they put a man on the moon
The United States - as a superpower - certainly warrants consideration as an "empire" but that collective is normally reserved for lands ruled by single authority; our democracy of fifty united states governed by the people is not normally envisioned as an empire. Interestingly, empires that approach the size of those you have listed are typically destroyed from within and that is our problem here; we have allowed immorally and secularism to exist rather than to nip them at the bud. Said immorality and secularism will destroy is from within. When it falls, our "empire" will be remembered as the greatest civilization ever known, that unfortunately made the mistake of allowing leftist radicals pervert that shiny city on the hill of our empire.
On the flipside, they couldn't have done it without mathematic and scientific principles first put forth by the arabs, greeks, persians, etc.
An empire is an empire whether the imperial center rules directly or by proxy. Even the Athenian Empire included nominally "independent" city states. And the Romans had their "client kings". That's not even counting the best chains of all - the chains inside peoples' heads that make them not even want to be free. In addition to the ideological means employed by America's rulers, "our" rule is also maintained both by proxy elites around the world and by an economic system that presupposes us as the necessary center. One reason America's rulers have been able to last is that there has been no good way for an external foe to get at us militarily without also unleashing forces that would destroy themselves as well. So America has been able to provide a stable place of last resort both militarily and economically. This is why terrorism is so dangerous to the empire. The oceans may protect us from invading armies but they won't protect us from a suitcase nuke or a few dirtbags with a biochem weapon, especially if said dirtbags don't care if they themselves die in the attack. If the terrorists can cause a big enough disruption, our highly interdependent (and therefore highly stressed and fragile) global imperial economic system might collapse. Empires typically end when their rulers finally get too greedy and overreach beyond the technological or ideological means of control while at the same time conservativism runs amok in the center, causing a hardening of the empire's political arteries and rendering the emperor and his advisors unable to effectively adapt to changing circumstances even if they wished to do so. And there's always a successor waiting in the wings for those things to happen. Like, say, Beijing is waiting today. Maybe Bush's inept and disastrous attempt to go crusading in the Middle East will mark the spot where the American Empire jumps the shark.
That would be a case of "conservativism runs amok in the center, causing a hardening of the empire's political arteries and rendering the emperor and his advisors unable to effectively adapt to changing circumstances even if they wished to do so". WW1 merely exacerbated and accelerated the collapse. Much the same happened to the Koreans and Chinese.
Of course ,one could argue that Russia may yet rebuild their empire.There is also that sense in which the Soviet bloc served as the continuation of Russian imperialism in a "workers' state " guise.. It bears pointing out that empires may break up but their aftereffects are felt for centuries afterwards.Perhaps this resonance may be considered to factor into the "best empire" voting.
Actually, I suspect it is far more likely that, despite its oil, it will continue to sink back into its historical role as part of what we now call "the third world". Of course that's what happened after the Stalinist counter-revolution but I doubt that Russia will ever again get its hands on all of eastern and part of central Europe. I also doubt they'll ever regain the predominantly Muslim parts of the former USSR. It's also usual that the "man in the street" notices no immediate functional difference in his life due to the "fall" of the empire in which he lives. Your typical "Roman" in 476CE certainly had little idea that "the empire has fallen" and if he did he'd have shrugged his shoulders in indifference. Your typical Briton was probably better informed in the 1950s but it probably still made little difference to their everyday lives. About the only exceptions to this are places that suffered Stalinist "revolutions".
For your paper write "Empires do not make one great." That's it. No more. College professors love that kind of thing.
One third of the world's population (and more islands than you could care ever to shake a stick at) can't be wrong. Beat that.
If an empire that rules a large segment of the world is not great than what is I think they are great, i look up to ancient civilisations for what they have done for the human race The romans were great because they were the first to build roads, the british the first to rule the sea Things like governments were introduced by romans which we use today, we still use the justice system which the british invented Empires are looked at as great, we study them at school, visit cites like eygpt and treasure artifacts found from the romans You are living in a young empire, i think your biggest threat will be china
Your posts are kind of like snakes to me. Snakes scare the crap out of me, but at the same time I'm fascinated by them. Some of what you spew is really scary (and moronic) and yet I am compelled to read because I can't believe that anyone actually thinks that way. What's it feel like to be a theocratic fascist?