Who deserve's FIFA's top ranking?

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by Huss, Nov 22, 2006.

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  1. bosterosoy

    bosterosoy New Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    In a House
    :rolleyes:
    I forgot about all those big wins against Luxembourg, Slovenia, Belarus and those 2 draws against Albania. And those friendly wins against N. Ireland and Finland. How did they do it. Paraguay would wipe the floor with these teams.

    They are also in a bad qualifying group. they'll probably cruise to second with Italy taking first. So will that bump them from 19th to a top 10 in the world as well :rolleyes:

    This is a perfect example for why the rankings don't work
     
  2. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    Not true. Home or way, 30 - 0 or 1 - 0 - it makes no difference.
     
  3. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    I will have a look tomorrow and I'll try to post the detailed point totals for both Bulgaria and Paraguay.
     
  4. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There is a difference if you play a team that is stronger or weaker than you. That was what I was making a reference to.
     
  5. UEFA2008

    UEFA2008 Red Card

    Jun 21, 2008
    Because beating a Brazil A team 0-5 in Rio de Janeiro is the same as beating San Marino in San Marino 1-0.:rolleyes:
     
  6. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Of course it is :p
     
  7. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yeah, of course. Praguay would win versus all these teams. They lost to Honduras and mana others. Just beating Brazil doesn't make you the top football nation.
     
  8. bosterosoy

    bosterosoy New Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    In a House
    Paraguay has been a solid team. It's not just this win against Brasil. They are leading the South American Qualifiers are the third best team in South America, made the WC etc, compared to Bulgaria's great achievements. IMO one is clearly better than the other. Also for all the talk about the European teams etc, I would like to see some of those teams, especially those second tier teams who are ranked top 20 play away games against Colombia, Chile, Peru, Urugay, Paraguay, Ecuador etc. Not to mention Brasil and Argentina
     
  9. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think Paraguay has a very good team, too! But they also had some very bad performances. If they keep their style, they will get a higher rank.

    Sorry, I'm drunk.
     
  10. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    See here.
     
  11. Edgar

    Edgar Member

    The procedure is explained on FIFA.com. Also check the documents on the right side of that page.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Several factors that make an honest ranking impossible:

    1. Not all games matter the same.

    2. Not all the best players are in each game.

    3. Not all the games are played under ideal conditions for a team.

    Trying to correct giving less weight to friendlies than to competition games is a partial solution: some friendlies are rivalries and matter A LOT, some games in tournaments are not that important (for example, when a team has already classified from group and play the last game with substitutes).

    The players available vary, depending on injuries, cards or other compromises. Brazil is playing (of late) without Kaka and Ronaldinho, for example. We all know those two can make a lot of difference.

    The last one is the trickiest: not all people are similarly adapted to all climates. For a Bolivian, for example, biologically adapted to the height of the Andes, playing in Europe is a big strain on their body. Similarly, it'd be very hard for a European team to play in the heights of La Paz or Quite. Or the heat of Accra or Lagos.

    The "best team in the world" is different in cold Europe than it'd be in hot Africa or in the rarefied atmosphere of many Latin American countries.
     
  13. barraginger

    barraginger New Member

    Jun 29, 2008
  14. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Is that your best attempt at being 'funny'? :rolleyes:
     
  15. barraginger

    barraginger New Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    no, i have no idea.......does west virginia count?


    :)
     
  16. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Congratulations.....I'm at a loss for words :D:rolleyes:
     
  17. Joseph_made_in_Italy

    Sep 10, 2006
    England???? Who Vote For England?
     
  18. Prenn

    Prenn Member

    Apr 14, 2000
    Northern Ireland
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    You did you silly boy.
     
  19. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
  20. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Spain cough spit cough sucks! What a horrible euro!
     
  21. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    How long has it been since Argentina won a major senior tournament? :D
     
  22. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    We have a winner.
     
  23. bltleo

    bltleo Member+

    Jan 5, 2003
    GERMANY
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I miss Germany in the poll...
    why England is included in this top ranking..they even did not qualify for EURO
    Italy finished in the quarter-finale
    France -out in the first round
    Germany: Finale.

    spain was the best european teams..but if we look at the history and overall performance of the teams in the past, Germany should be ranked higher than Spain....
    Germany: 15 times finale in Euro cups, 3 times winner of Euro,
     
  24. Hendrixforpope

    Hendrixforpope Member+

    Barcelona
    Dec 15, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    The rankings aren't based on what happened in 1996. This is 2008.
     
  25. FNU

    FNU BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Mar 6, 2007
    Monte Vesuvio
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Spain for now. Lets see how long it last because FIFA is so up Brazil and Arg. ass as of late. After Italy won the WC, we were 1 for like 3 months lol What a joke.
     

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