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Discussion in 'Portland Timbers' started by pc4th, Jun 15, 2010.
When comparing them side by side, it's pretty obvious which is a better crest.
Spread It Around.
THE CHOICE IS YOURS!
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Neither. The old crest needed a new face, some updates and some polishing to make it a nnoticeable transition from USL to MLS. But the new logo is too much change, adds too much of a cartoon element to it, and completely strips away our iconic circle crest.
There's a middle ground in between the crest and the logo. That is where our MLS crest should lie.
Ole, I am not anti-you, but seriously: give it a rest.
1. No, the choice is not yours. It is Paulson's. And he made it.
2. Yes, yes, you turned your helpful graphic into a lousy powerpoint video and are now posting said video in every thread that has "Timbers logo" in the title. We get it. You want people to watch your (mediocre) video.
Now could you please just stop and actually make a contribution to a thread?
It isn't even a helpful graphical comparison considering he compares on one hand some of the most recognizable graphics in SOCCER and on the other compares dead soccer graphics and other successful brand in OTHER SPORTS.
wow. you are totally dense aren't you.
group A. successful global football clubs with iconic crests.
group B. various american sports clubs (both successful and unsuccessful) and their logos (some good, some bad) with a sub group of early MLS "brands" that tried to sell soccer/football by fitting in with said group by having, amongst other things, cheezy hyper stylized and cartoony names/logos as is/was the norm for other american sports. the comparison being that those early MLS brands all FAILED because you do not successfully sell soccer in america by trying to pretend to be just like other american sports. you sell soccer successfully by being uniquely "soccerish" and attracting those fans who have tastes that don't run towards american sports (or not only towards american sports).
moral. if you want to be a successful soccer/football brand, even in america, you would do well to emulate other iconic global soccer brands and not try and use they hyper cheezy, cartoony american styled branding of other sports.
if you don't get that than you are frankly as clueless and tasteless as MP.
and for those who wonder what is meant by "cartoonish". heavy, thick lines often of uneven thickness. heavy, colourized shading and highlighting. over sized/unrealistic proportions (the axe). "classy" or "classic" or "professional" would encompass many of the opposite features. usually very thin weighted lines with uniform thickness. no or very little excess shading and highlighting. realistic proportions. now even withing "classic" there can be a variety of styles used but most styles have an underlying simplicity or emphasis on clean lines and crispness. quasi art/design lesson over.
Oh so teams have to step in line with European club design to be a successful club.
And here I thought it was all about the 11 guys on the pitch.
I guess I am a moron, all this time I was cheering on sports teams when I should have realized I was cheering on t-shirt and scarf companies.
Edit: I'll bet you approve of Real Salt Lake's names and teams with arbitrary "United" in their name as well. Because, you know, its European.
Now that I've calmed down a bit, I'll explain why its unfair without all the sarcasm.
First, you cherry pick all the teams that have brand recognition because they generally win while leaving out teams that do indeed reside in Europe and also have cartoony crests/logos
Then you leave out successful world recognized brands that have multiple championships like Celtics, Lakers, Yankees, Red Sox etc.
This is what we call begging the question.
I've always liked the old Timbers crest, but I think the new one looks great. I don't see anything wrong with refreshing the crest as we transition from the USL to MLS, and the new one is quite slick.
This one is the updated crest right? the one that will be used?
Yes. That's the new primary logo for the Timbers MLS franchise as compromised between the team and representatives of the fans. Members of the Timbers Army will continue to attempt to affect change by stressing their preference for the new secondary logo, pictured on the bottom right below.