Which country has the best collection of young talent in the world

Discussion in 'BigSoccer Polls' started by puertorricane, Jul 8, 2013.

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Top countries and some of their best young players feel free to add others with your posts.

  1. Germany: Gotze 21, Ter Stengen 21, Schurrle 22, Jung 23, Lewis Holtby 21, Julian Draxler 19

    19.2%
  2. Spain: Thiago 22, Isco 21, Canales 22, Rodrigo 22, Deulofeu 20, De Gea 22, Tello 21, Koke 21

    10.9%
  3. England: Wilshire 21, Chamberlain 19, Sterling 18, McEacharan 20, Phil Jones 21, Welbeck 22

    2.6%
  4. Brasil: Neymar 21, Moura 20, Bernard 20, Costa 22, Marquinhos 18, Coutinho 21, Nem 21, Piazon 19

    12.8%
  5. Colombia: Quintero 20, James 21, Luis Muriel 22, Jhon Cordoba 20, Brayan Perea 20

    3.2%
  6. Argentina: Lamela 21, Peruzzi 21, Centurion 20, Rogelio Funes 22, Iturbe 20, Ocampos 18, Araujo 21

    1.9%
  7. Belgium: Hazard 21, Lukaku 20, Courtis 21, De Bruyne 22, Benteke 22, Lestienne 21, Boyata 22

    23.1%
  8. Uruguay: Gaston 22, Coates 22, Abel 22, Rolan 20, Vecino 21, Texeira 22, Bueno 20, Aguirre 18

    0.6%
  9. Ghana: Jordan Ayew 21, Cofie 22, Atsu 21, Badu 22, Wakaso 22, Waris 21, Boakye 20, Frimpong 21

    0.6%
  10. Mexico:Bueno 19, Jonathan 23 , D Reyes 20, Aquino 23, Raul J. 22, Pulido 22, Araujo 21, U Davila 22

    7.7%
  11. France: Fofana 22, Varane 20, M'vila 23, Pogba 20, Sakho 23, Grenier 22, Niang 18, Guilavogui 22

    3.8%
  12. Nigeria: Moses 22, Oduamadi 22, Musa 20, Obi 22, Oboabona 22, Omeruro 19, Onazi 20

    0.6%
  13. Italy:Veratti 21, Balotelli 22, Sciglio 20, Shaarawy 20, Santon 22, Destro 22, Borini 22, Insigne 22

    6.4%
  14. Other: Explain on your post the country and list the players

    6.4%
  1. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    I'm not leading to an answer, but if you believe these young players are better, then you also believe they'll do better in the future.. that's exactly what the thread is about.

    Saying, they won so they are better, but I don't believe they'll win again in the future, contradicts the whole argument of they are better.

    If they are better, they'll have a better chance to win no?
     
  2. MX92

    MX92 Member+

    Feb 27, 2013
    Some of the mexicans you put up there are meh, bueno is average fro example. Players like Tecatito Corona, Gullit Pena, Isaac Brizuela, Hector Herrera, Carlos Fierro, and Jorge Espericueta to name a few are superior to most of those
     
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  3. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Country:
    Netherlands
    Now: Yes. In the future: Not necessarily.
     
  4. Cody667

    Cody667 Member+

    May 10, 2010
    Sudbury, ON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Country:
    England
    Spain most likely. You just don't hear about them very much because they have plenty of top senior players.
     
  5. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Explain further, because that's the easiest stance to take.

    They won the tournament so now they are the best, but in the future we don't know because they haven't played a tournament.

    I mean really? you have no opinion other than waiting for something to happen and then point out to us that it happened?
     
  6. MrOranjeBal

    MrOranjeBal Member

    Apr 7, 2009
    Club:
    AZ
    Country:
    Netherlands
    The explanation is rather straight forward: the fact that a player or group of players is the best of their age-group at a certain moment in time, does not mean they will stay the best of their, perhaps late-developing, peers in the future.
     
  7. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Once again you're missing the point of me saying you're taking the easy stand and not really having an opinion or adding value to the discussion if all you can come up with is:

    They won, so currently at this point in time they are the best. And the team that wins on the future will be the best on the future.

    We're not asking, which country has the best collection of young winners in the world.

    Then your response would be correct.
     
  8. Blondo

    Blondo Member+

    Sep 21, 2013
    Both Bakkali and Januzaj have chosen Belgium ... Michy could be the next one that joins (to replace Benteke).
     
  9. xoxoGeorges

    xoxoGeorges New Member

    May 4, 2014
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Germany and Belgium.
     
  10. williamnantz

    williamnantz New Member

    May 13, 2014
    NSW
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Country:
    United States
    still germany.... :)
     
  11. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    you guys care to add to this?
     
  12. Tomazo

    Tomazo Member

    May 18, 2014
    Koper
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Slovenia
    Hmm, that's a very interesting question and difficult to say, because there are a lot of players from different countries which play very well, but I think Belgium is in front anyway. I have also made an article and listed best 5 young soccer players and you can check it. :)
     
  13. zdrstvte

    zdrstvte Member+

    Aug 27, 2012
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    England: McEacharan? Seriously? What about Luke Shaw, Ross Barkley, or Daniel Sturridge?
     
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  14. zdrstvte

    zdrstvte Member+

    Aug 27, 2012
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Belgium has a great talented squad now, but I wouldn't put Januzaj in that list. Yes, he had a breakout season at ManU, but Sterling, who's just 2 months older, did much more at Liverpool this season for example.
     
  15. ---Z---

    ---Z--- Member+

    Cagalhao
    Nov 2, 2005
    CAMPEAO
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Country:
    Portugal
    England has the best, they will win WCs and Euros starting in 2018
    noone can match their skill, technique, and vision.
     
  16. Simmer

    Simmer Member

    Oct 23, 2009
    Holland
    Country:
    Netherlands
    I have voted for Other. Protest vote! Holland should always be on the list. Maybe we don't have the super talents we had 10 years ago like Robben, Sneijder, RVP and VDV but we still have some promising talents. If we only talk about Dutch youngsters who made their debut for the Dutch NT already, were pre-selected for the World Cup and actually go to the World Cup and a few who could make it someday.

    Young talents who go to the World Cup.

    Stefan de Vrij (22)
    Bruno Martins Indi (22)
    Joël Veltman (20)
    Terence Kongolo (20)
    Jordy Clasie (22)
    Memphis Depay (20)

    Young talents who were pre-selected for the World Cup.

    Karim Rekik (19)
    Tonny Vilhena (19)
    Jean-Paul Boëtius (20)
    Quincy Promes (22)

    Young talents who already made their debut for the Dutch NT.

    Jeffrey Bruma (22)
    Jetro Willems (20)
    Ricardo van Rhijn (22)
    Marco van Ginkel (21)
    Davy Klaassen (21)
    Adam Maher (20)

    Young talents who didn't made ther debut yet but are worth a mention.

    Virgil van Dijk (22)
    Davy Pröpper (22)
    Hakim Ziyech (21)
    Ola John (22)
    Richaro Zivkovic (17)

    Of course half of the list probably won't reach world class level but who knows what will happen.
     
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  17. Tomazo

    Tomazo Member

    May 18, 2014
    Koper
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Country:
    Slovenia
    Yeah, you are right, cause Sterling is really a great player, but I think also Januzaj will develope in a fantastic player, don't you think?
     
  18. corizu

    corizu New Member

    Jul 24, 2014
  19. Dmnk

    Dmnk Member

    Jul 27, 2014
    Country:
    Germany
    Germany..

    Our u19 won the Euros without too much trouble despite missing most of their best players. If you look at Germany's 95 and after born talents, it's just ridiculous how stacked we are.
     
  20. Rana catesbeiana

    Mar 11, 2008
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I don't want to take anything away from Germany's youngsters, but it's not like you can draw much from a single youth tournament. I mean, sure, they won it, but given the context of other recent youth tourneys, a different image emerges.

    Latest editions:
    u-21 euro: out at the group stage
    u-19 euro: gold
    u-17 euro: out at the group stage
    u-20 world cup: not qualified
    u-17 world cup: not qualified
     
  21. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Germany, Spain and Belgium ...
     
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  22. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    Germany
    Yeah, overall we have a exceptional tendency to underperform at youth tournaments, partially because at the U-21, U-20, and U-19 level, a lot of players are left out because they're either in the senior team (Draxler, Gündoğan, being examples at the last U-21 Euro) or are held back by their clubs (Werner, Meyer, Tah, Goretzka, etc. were not released by their clubs for the recent U-19 Euro) but I believe if you look at the talent Germany are producing, it's pretty good overall, up there certainly. Also, if we're looking at chances the young talent have of fulfilling their potential (important considering how little a lot of exceptional youth players have done in their careers), there's very few better spots to develop than a Bundesliga club, who will often promote talent very rapidly, regularly breaking their records of youngest players to make senior debuts. Brandt, Tah, Meyer, Goretzka, are all very young German standout players playing at high levels and starting on a regular basis that were all promoted in this season alone. That's a pretty good record.
     
  23. ChinoMafia

    ChinoMafia Red Card

    Jul 9, 2014
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Spain is the only European country that sends its best players to youth competitions. England, France, Italy and Germany always send second tier players.
     
  24. Dmnk

    Dmnk Member

    Jul 27, 2014
    Country:
    Germany
    None of them with the best German talents. 95 and after born talent is crazy for Germany. So crazy that our B team won the Euros with relative ease. You'll see in a few seasons just how strong the 95 and after born talents are in Germany. I'm also pretty sure Germany would've won the u21 euros with the likes of Kroos, Gundogan, Gotze, etc. I don't think that's too far fetched.
     
  25. Dmnk

    Dmnk Member

    Jul 27, 2014
    Country:
    Germany
    The simple results posting doesn't mean anything without the context of Germany not having close to their strongest possible squads available.

    For this u19 tournament our clubs also didn't let Timo Werner, Max Meyer, Leon Goretzka, Niklas Suele, Jonathan Tah, Serge Gnabry, etc. participate.

    Our B team dominated Spain 3-1 in their own backyard to eliminate them and qualify for the tournament. :p
     

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