Did VDV ever said that he didn't want to go to Real? I thought he never said that! But maybe I'm wrong...
Id like to see him at Arsenal but I dont like the for him to play there the Attitude would have to go.
There is no attitude problem, you took van Persie. He is way worse. The only problem with van der Vaart was that the coach posted him everywhere on the field and van der Vaart said he didn't want that anymore. And of the field there was some trouble among players. But that is just because the Ajax group lacks a leader.
Isn't that an attitude problem--they lack a leader--I think VDV was supposed to be that person This guy is not a victim of Ajax--he's an underacheiver that can be partially blamed for what is the Ajax season. No one came up big in the tough international or Eredivisie matches.
How many Ajax matches do you watch, you are talking nonsense. And you are a leader or you are not, you do not become one. What's next, telling me Bergkamp is rubbish because he is no leader!? Come up with something usefull to post and then post please. Btw. El Mundo Deportivo, a Spanish newspaper, says now Barcelona is after van der Vaart as well. To get more competition to the midfield. But I do not think they'll still want him when they have van Bommel.
Sorry for hurting your sensitivities. But I have to disagree with you again. People are not born leaders. They become leaders thru maturity and experience and siezing the opportunity. VDV has not done this. I was under the impression that he was supposed to be the top player with Ajax this year--the leader Just because I don't see as many Ajax games as you do in Holland doesn't mean i can't see or have an opinion on what's wrong with the team. Granted it is more limited but, you imply that you have to live there to have an opinion, especially if it is against your thoughts. When speaking to my friends and relatives back there they do not disagree with my opinoins regarding VDV this year. I grant you they also have many other reasons why Ajax is off their form Moving to a new environment may be the ticket for him. Also as someone else stated, summer may change many things
You didn't hurt my sensitivities, but you are posting nonsense that is all. Youdo nt learn to be a leader, you have the potential or not. With some it may take a little longer to actually become a leader. Van der Vaart was never a leader, everyone could see that. Big mistake to make him captain.
They're playing intertoto so they still might make it to the UEFA-cup. That might mean a short holiday for Van der Vaart, training starts 25th of June already...
Surely he could have done better. I also expect Hamburg to lose several of their top players this summer (Van Buyten, Boularouz).
I don't think Chelsea is going to buy anyone with Hiddink still there / with no trainer appointed yet for the 09/10 season. Unless secretly, Abramovich en Hiddink have already agreed for Guus to stay! Personally, I hope VdV transfers back to Ajax!! Is not going to happen but heck we are paying millions for crap Argentinian strikers (anyone remember Gabrich??, and I'm not a fan of Cvitanovich either) why can't Ajax pay that for a Dutch player? Anyway, I think he's gonna stay at Real Madrid. Unless he thinks playing irregularly could jeopardize his place in the Dutch squad for WC2010.
Lets dream a little--more like a lot he is not coming back to any Dutch team--but his style fits he would look good at AZ in CL next year--probably one of the only Dutch teams that can afford him after they lose/sell Dembele and El Hamd- -but AZ hold onto DeZeeuw Schaars DaSilva and Martens- -he could cash the goals up front with Ari
VdV up front?? Not his forte, he's more of an attacking midfielder. Incidentally, I think he covered the most distance of all Dutch players at Euro 2008! Not that that is a good thing, better leave the running to the opponent.
The CL season Ajax had with VdV, Ibrahimovic, Pienaar, Maxwell, Chivu, Mido, Galasek, Trabelsi, etc etc was sooo good. We played exceptionally well, not in the traditional Ajax-way, but under Koeman, Ajax hardly gave any chances away, and we always ruled the midfield. Hope those days will return soon.
Didnt see the Real MAdrid Liverpool game, but supposedly when he came in he changed the game alot...in a good way
I watched the game , I'll tell you he gave us creativity and technique in the middle of the park. I am one of the only Madrid fans that KNOW he can succeed, he's a great player.
Of the three, VdV is the most allround player. To me, it's either fantastic or disastrous with Robben and Sneijder. People sometimes forget that VdV did a lot of dirty work on the midfield at Euro2008 so that Sneijder et al could focus on their all out attack. Anyway, things could change when Ramos leaves at the end of this season. I assume he's gonna go right?
Who knows? We'll have a new president, sporting director, possible coach, and we've got a Madrid media and many fans hellbent on a squad overhaul. He really needs to start showing something the rest of the year, if he's even given a good chance, in order to win over the club. I think he, like anyone, deserves at least another season to blend in. That said, I'm not sure I agree that he's better all around than Sneijder. Sneijder seems to have a better motor, and more of an ability to play defensively when needed. Also, Sneijder's movement off the ball seems better than VDV. VDV has looked to stoic out there, and quite soft. Sneijder is a more likely choice in midfield to partner a DM, due to his compactness, and work ethic. VDV has tried his butt off when he's played, no arguement there. The engine for 90 mins is questionable. I really wish he'd played better in the games he got as a SS, because he could've grabbed a spot in the squad with some noteworthy performances. At tactics-wise, it would've given us a few more options up front.
Sneijder must have improved his D then, either way it's good for Oranje, although I don't think Oranje can play with both VdV and Sneijder in midfield. I also think that with VdV, Oranje is better able to control the play. Dunno about the 90min, VdV has been injured a lot this season no? Maybe he's not topfit, which would explain him being on the bench so often. He should run less in a game anyway, as he'll be sharper in goal opportunity situations. With SS you mean second striker right? He played at that position pretty succesfully with Ajax together with Ibrahimovic, but he's not a prolific scorer. He's got a knack for scoring important goals, although he's hasn't shown that recently at both club and national level.