no, it wasn't. it answered the question of my assumption... that's it. this it did. this it did not do. how you can get this sort of information out of two words must be a gift from the heavens... or telepathy maybe. more likely, however, this is the result of you having prior knowledge and unwittingly assuming that everyone else could deduce the same details and intent out of sam's two words. while what you say about the situation could be true, for anyone not closely associated with ongoal to learn all that from what sam said would be nothing short of extremely presumptuous.
By saying emphatically that the beer and alcohol sales are not the determining factor, Sam was clearly implying that there were other more important factors. I don't think it's very difficult to infer that from his post at all. Inference. It's a good thing.
But does this thread really need action? I mean, other than make each other mad, and get frustrated, what - exactly - can we really do at this point other than wait for the team to tell us where they're playing?
Typing on a Blackberry while driving in traffic can be an experience.* * Note: I don't have a Blackberry, so I'm really just guessing
i said forum... this just happened to be one thread. you're free to not read it if you don't want to.
Neither is your overly negative, "sky is falling" attitude about anything and everything temp stadium related. If the stadium is a piece of trash when we actually see it, then I'd be fine with bashing it. But expecting a crap stadium and talking about it like it's already a huge failure can only serve to fuel the shitstorm that we're going to hear from the rest of the fans around the league for the next two years. Whether you've intended it to or not, every post you've made that addresses the temp stadium over the last two weeks has come off as extremely pessimistic. As a Wizards "fan", you should of course be expecting and demanding the best. But at this point you should also be supporting the team/organization and not stirring up crap long before we at the very least know the specifics of the situation, and preferably not until we've actually seen the stadium itself. As was said to you in another thread where this topic had come up: If you had been at the season ticket holder's meeting the other night, you would know that the intent of the organization and ownership is to do this up right in every way possible. I don't think it's too much to ask that the fan base gives them the benefit of the doubt that they will actually follow through with that.
"sky is falling" attitude? nothing like a little hyperbole, i guess. yeah, i'll admit i'm pessimistic about some of the things, notably the ticket price structure, but other than that i haven't said anything that other people on this board haven't said as well. the problem here is that you started reading all of my posts with this preconceived notion that i'm pessimistic about everything, so it's not a surprise that you came to this type of conclusion. not at all. i wasn't making myself seem superior to him.
I wouldn't call it extremely presumptuous. I would call it knowing Sam for several years. Perhaps Sam could have been more verbose, mellifluous and discursive in his reply, but time was of the essence. Chad's response may have assumed knowledge that you didn't have, but for those of us who know Sam - his response spoke volumes beyond the two words.
I was hoping the last couple posts were the end of the argument. It's not often I unsubscribe to anything in the Wizards forum, but I'm sure when this thread becomes relevant again, I'll hear the news.
And then, if OnGoal fails, we'll be more than happy to introduce you to the people to whom you'll need to speak. Some of us are fully behind this. I respect the opinion of everyone who is taking a wait and see attitude. I feel frustrated, however, when people who haven't been engaged and who are Wizards fans to take a "this is horrible" attitude. If you have that attitude and have been engaged, I apologize but I'd like to hear when and where you've been engaged. There are a large number of people in the Wizards front office, the Cauldron, HASF, and the Crusaders that are working very hard to make the next two seasons the best possible experience. I cannot recommend strongly enough that if you think these two coming seasons are going to be "bad" that you get involved with either the Cauldron, the Crusaders, or HASF. Your help and passion is needed in a constructive manner with these groups.
Well said Brad, thank you!! "You must spread some reputation around before giving it to rhymeorreason again" Can anyone help a brother out?
I think you all misinterpreted KCSC's post. I dont really seem them as pessimistic. He is just being realistic and posting some concerns. He is a loyal fan just as we all are and he loves this team just as much as any cauldronite. Your last paragraph makes the assumption that you need to be a member of one of the organizations you listed to be helpful and be passionate about this team. That isnt true. I respect what each and everyone of those groups do. But there are other groups of people that are just as passionate about the team. Just because we dont have an official name or have formed an organization doesnt mean we dont care just as much. We all post here because we have a common passion and love. No need to crucify someone for posting some concerns about the upcoming seasons. You should be glad that he cares enough to be concerned in the first place. We need more of that.
Two points: 1) My deepest apologies if it appeared as if I was attempting to "crucify" anyone. I am incredibly glad that everyone is posting their concerns here, although I feel we could all perhaps be more civil and constructive in how we talk to each other. Then again, this is an internet forum, so ... 2) I was not saying that the only way to "be helpful and passionate" about the team was to join the Cauldron, the Crusaders, or HASF. I can't, because I spent six years as Wizards fan "GDI" before I married into the Crusaders and. The point I was trying to get across is that it seems that individuals who are trending more positive are involved in one of these organizations. Based on that - and my own experience, I'm willing to say that individuals involved in the three groups are getting more information directly from employees and owners of OnGoal than people who are just posting on the boards. I don't want to make any attempt to link passion and helpfulness to affiliation with any formal group associated with the Wizards. However, there are three benefits to consider: A) Access to information from OnGoal staff and owners B) Opportunity to provide immediate and direct feedback to OnGoal staff and owners, or provide feedback to representatives of these organizations recognized by OnGoal C) Fellowship and camaraderie with the like-minded members of those organizations I don't believe any of these organizations or OnGoal will succeed if the supporters groups are just filled with "Kool-Aid drinkers". In this sense, I've never been a Kool-Aid drinker and love it when people bring Newcastle, Glenlivet, a good Shiraz, some ICB's, 2-liters of pop, etc. to the party. Don't underestimate the fact that your posts and everyone else's are recorded on these boards. Let's all keep up the good work and communication.
i love the kool-aid man but with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage that he has caused over the years he needs to have a positive outlet for his destructive behaviors and the cauldron may be the place for him since he is too old now to play professional sports. plus we get a trademarked slogan to go along with his presence, and instead of nick getting sent off the field for a foul kool-aid man can bust through the breaking away player and disintegrate him by the impact of force from when he collides with him (making sure that he gets to break something every now and again) third kool-aid man can make sure that even during our down trodden periods that we seem to have every year he can brighten our spirits but tipping over with a little drinkie drink and brighten our tough outing, even Ben would stop crying from kool-aid mans bright smile and cool drink all we have to do is provide the vodka since kool-aid man has been going to AA for some time now. we wont even need to worry about someone putting rat poison in the drink because he will be there to guard his good name, and drink
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