When will the MLS be top 4?

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by Footsatt, Mar 8, 2013.

  1. UCFWayne

    UCFWayne Member

    United States
    Apr 22, 2014
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I honestly would be happy if it became an official 5th sport. To be good enough to recognized on sports center or the average nightly news or afternoon talk radio.
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think MLS is very safe because it is relatively cheap compared to the other sports.
     
  3. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree.

    Also SUM gets more money than just TV deal, League wide marketing, 30% (or so) of all ticket sales, flat fees on some endorsements, the rights the Mexican National team playing in the USA, ect.

    SUM probably gets the 100-150M (maybe more), sends around 15M to 20M to USSF for NT rights, then pays salaries (players and staff) and any profits/left over get kicked back to the shareholders (25% to PEP).

    But it is all just guessing.
     
  4. Lancaster FC

    Lancaster FC Member+

    Oct 2, 2007
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. UCFWayne

    UCFWayne Member

    United States
    Apr 22, 2014
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/league/official-rules/mls-roster-rules-and-regulations

    From the above website:

    On-Budget: Senior Roster
    Up to 20 players, occupying roster spots 1-20, count against the club's 2017 salary budget of $3,845,000, and are referred to collectively as the club's Senior Roster.

    • Roster spots 19 and 20 are not required to be filled, and teams may spread their salary budget across only 18 Salary Budget Players. A minimum salary budget charge will be imputed against a team's salary budget for each unfilled senior roster spot below 18.
    • A Club may have no more than twenty Players on its Senior Roster, subject to the Season-ending Injury Replacement, Disabled List, and loan exceptions.
    • The maximum budget charge for a single player is $480,625. (See Allocation Money sectionbelow for details on buying down a player's budget charge.)
     
  7. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #632 Footsatt, Jul 3, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2017
    Updated the Team Values, Salaries and other info...

    2016/17 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV VIEWERS
    NFL 32 16/17 69.5k 17.8m $4.9b (2012-2022) $2.34b (2016) $1.9m (2016) 111.3m
    MLB 30 2016 30.1k 73.2m $1.55b (2012-2021) $1.3b (2016) $4.4m (2016) 22.8m (series avg)
    NBA 30 16/17 17.88k 22.99m $2.67b (2015-2025) $1.36b (2016) $6.2m (2016) 20.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 16/17 18.1k 21.5m $600m* (2012-2022) $505m (2016) $2.9m (2016) 14.7m (series avg)
    MLS 20 2016 21.7k 7.4m $90m (2015-2022) $185m (2016) $309k (2016) 3.5m^
    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes Univsion Deportes and Canadian (2.1m total)[/COLOR]

    2015/16 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV VIEWERS
    NFL 32 15/16 68.2k 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $2b (14/15) $2.11m (14/15) 111.9m
    MLB 30 2015 30.4k 73.8m $1.55b (2012-2021) $1.2b (2014) $4.25m (2014) 14.5m (series avg)
    NBA 30 15/16 17.86k 22.97m $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m (13/14) $4.5m (13/14) 20.28m (series avg)
    NHL 30 15/16 17.6k 21.6m $600m* (2012-2022) $490m (14/15) $2.4m (13/14) 4.6m (series avg)
    MLS 20 2015 21.6k 7.3m $90m (2015-2022) $157m (2014) $207k (2014) 1.2m^
    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes ESPN Deportes, Univsion & Unimas

    2014/15 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV VIEWERS
    NFL 32 14/15 68.3k 17.4m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b (13/14) $2m (13/14) 114.4m
    MLB 30 2014 30.3k 73.7m $1.55b (2012-2021) $1.2b $4.25m 13.8m (series avg)
    NBA 30 14/15 17.8k 21.4m (13/14) $2.67b (2015-2025) $634m (13/14) $4.5m (13/14) 20m (series avg)
    NHL 30 14/15 17.5k (13/14) 21.5m (13/14) $600m* (2012-2022) $490m $2.4m (13/14) 5.6m (series avg)
    MLS 20 2014 19.1k 6.2m $90m (2015-2022) $157m (2014) $207k 1.9m^
    *$400m Canadian
    ^Includes ESPN Deportes, Univsion & Unimas.[/COLOR]

    2013/14 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV VIEWERS
    NFL 32 13/14 68k 17.3m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.43b $2m 112.2m
    MLB 30 2013 30.5k 74.0m $1.55b (2012-2021) $810.9m $3.9m 14.9m (series avg)
    NBA 30 13/14 17.4k 21.4m $930m (2012-2016) $634m $4.5m 15.5m (series avg)
    NHL 30 13/14 17.5k 21.5m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m (12/13) $2.4m 4.8m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2013 18.6k 6m $27m $103m (2012) $148k .5m
    *$400m Canadian

    2012/13 SEASON
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACT Avg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV VIEWERS
    NFL 32 12/13 67.6k 17.2m $4.9b (2012-2022) $1.17b $1.9m 108.7m
    MLB 30 2012 30.8k 74.9m $1.55b (2012-2021) $605m $3.3m 12.7m (series avg)
    NBA 30 12/13 17.3k 21.3m $930m (2012-2016) $509m $5.5m (11/12) 10.4m (series avg)
    NHL 30 12/13 17.8k 22.2m $600m* (2012-2022) $413m $2.4m (11/12) 5.7m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2012 18.8k 6m $27m $103m $143k .8m
    *$400m Canadian

    2011/12 SEASON - First Table: Posted March 2013
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTEND.TOTAL ATTEND.TV CONTRACTAvg TEAM VALUE Avg SALARYCHMPSHIP TV VIEWERS
    NFL 32 11/12 67.4k 17.1m $4.9b (2012-2022) - - 111.3m
    MLB 30 2011 30.9k 73.4m $1.55b (2012-2021) - - 16.5m (series avg)
    NBA 30 11/12 17.3k 17.1m $930m (2012-2016) $393m $5.5m 16.2m (series avg)
    NHL 30 11/12 17.5k 21.5m $200m (2012-2022) - $2.4m 2.9m (series avg)
    MLS 19 2011 17.9k 5.5m $27m - - -


    2003/04 SEASON - Added to see how far MLS has come
    LEAGUETEAMSYEARAvg ATTENDANCETOTAL ATTENDANCETV CONTRACT
    NFL 32 03/04 66.4k 17m -
    MLB 30 2004 30.6k over 70m -
    NBA 29 03/04 17.1k 21.8m -
    NHL 30 03/04 16.1k 20.3m$60m (2005)
    MLS 10 2004 15.6k 2.3m $0*
    * shared the advertising revenue with the Cable network
     
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  8. CakeYear

    CakeYear Member

    none
    Jun 22, 2007
    Inglewood, Ca.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I know its been said before and some might not want to hear it, don't kill me - but what if we changed the name MLS to the North American Premier League. That name would go along way as far as sexiness goes for starters. MLS is our league but the name is wack imo
     
  9. CakeYear

    CakeYear Member

    none
    Jun 22, 2007
    Inglewood, Ca.
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    The thing is, those shows cost hardly anything to make. Its not like a Game Of Thrones episode that cost nearly $10 million bucks to make per episode. All you need is a nice clean studio and lets some talking heads run their mouth. With Espn all their money goes to the live sports
     
  10. The One X

    The One X Member+

    Sep 9, 2014
    Indiana
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    I would be all for that, or something similar. The name is rather silly in a global context.
     
  11. UCFWayne

    UCFWayne Member

    United States
    Apr 22, 2014
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Target is jumping on board and MLS just signed a new deal with Adidas. It seems like the tide is beginning to change. I know that the Silva deal was pure bs, but I dont think the dollar figure was completely crazy. I think MLS can get a 3, 4, or even 5 time increase per team in the next TV/streaming deal in 2022.

    If that happens, I think you can put MLS in that conversation.
     
  12. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think using Premier League in the title would subject us to more ridicule than ever from Eurowankers.

    On the other hand, the next time a West Coast team has a morning kick-off you could say "I love the smell of NAPL in the morning".

    It may be worth it just for that.
     
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  13. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No offense, but thats a turrible idea. We can't be England and shouldn't mimic them.

    That said MLS name should be changed.
     
  14. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    Naaaa.
     
  15. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The idea that anyone still believes that the name of the damn league could have the slightest impact on whether or not a single person on the planet does or doesn't tune in is so stupid and nonsensical that I can't believe I haven't started thread-banning people who say it.
     
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  16. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never said anything about renaming MLS would draw viewers. I just think MLS is a terrible name.

    Are you ok?
     
  17. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This I can understand. I think the name is fine, but I understand that someone could find it wanting, but there's incredible brand equity now.

    Calling anything "X Premier League" is terrible, though. No need to say the league is a wannabe EPL. It invites direct comparison to the clear financial superpower of the sport, and one of the two best in top to bottom quality.
     
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  18. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    The same can be asked about you!
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the "Incredible Super Soccer League" could work.
     
  20. Sempuukyaku

    Sempuukyaku Member+

    Apr 30, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm cool with MLS as the name.
     
  21. Jay510

    Jay510 Member+

    Apr 21, 2002
    Gadsden Purchase, AZ
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm perfectly fine, in case you were wondering.
     
  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank you. You said it a hell of a lot better than I did.
     
  23. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    #648 RedRover, Aug 13, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2017
    You sure don't act it.
     
  24. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    Why? MLS would have to change all their branding. Nobody says the name of MLB is stupid. I suppose you could label it the National Soccer League (like the NFL and NBA), but NSL is too similar to NASL, which has a whole different set of connotations. When people hear "Premier League", they automatically think of England. La Liga, Serie A, and Bundesliga all bring to mind their nation of origin. In 20 year MLS will be considered in the same light.
     
  25. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Major League Football obviously. :thumbsup:
     

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