When Random Jibberish is riding in a time machine way far into the future...

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How come? :(


    :eek:


    Believe it or not, by the late 1970's the NBA Finals were also shown on tape-delay. This was when the NBA's reputation had sunk so low and was before the arrivals of Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and David Stern to help reignite the league throughout the 1980's and beyond.

    What a difference between then and now here for both pro sports!


    It was strange how it was broadcast (even tape-delayed) on a weekday, but I suppose such was the state of the NASL's decline by that point.


    I remember watching that game with my father on TV. I was two months shy of turning ten (I'm old :().


    At least you have a mind to waste. :) ... :(



    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah the game was shown on tape delay on Sunday, Septemeber 27th, 1981. It was sad seeing the league decline after that point.
     
  3. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your high school was open on a Sunday? :confused:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  4. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
  5. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Like with the Quakes, though, you have to find someone to buy the team, and in the current MLB landscape, I'm not sure that's very easy to do. 1 billion dollars is a lot of money to buy a team, and if a stadium can't be built in Oakland, then what options are there but relocation?

    Obviously buying pro sports teams has always been expensive, but the sale of the Dodgers at over a billion in the not too distant past I think genuinely changed the landscape.

    Couple that with a league that can't figure out how to market itself, has incredible players stuck in the doldrums on crap teams (it's such a shape Trout has to languish in Anaheim), and has generally declining attendance, I'm not sure getting into MLB is as enticing as it was before.

    I'm sure new owners could eventually be found, but I get irritated by people who suggest "just sell the team", without really saying anything more than that. Frankly, this article doesn't amount to much more.
     
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  6. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    I was standing pretty close behind home plate when this happened...



    ...cemented my status as a lifetime A's fan but tbh I don't watch much baseball.

    what stood out with this article was the similarities with Fisher-owned teams; among the lowest player-payroll in the league ("$66,039,675, over 19% lower than what player payroll was in 2017, ranking them behind only the Phillies for the league’s lowest"), among leagues lowest attendance ("the A’s will rank 27th overall in attendance when the regular season ends"), moneyball philosophy, etc., the similarities are remarkable. trouble is, we don't have the equivalent a Beane or a Forst or a Melvin to compensate for small team budget we're saddled with.
     
  7. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Yeah you can get in at Del Mar HS. They have turnstiles for people who need to get their books on Del Mar Ave. I think you still can get in from the fields as well.
     
  8. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    73-87. :(

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! [​IMG]


    -G
     
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    73-88. :(

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! [​IMG]


    -G
     
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  10. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  11. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It's more than that even. Obviously you need smart people running your team, but baseball also has numerous mechanisms designed to keep low payroll teams competitive (and make the rich richer, as it were).

    The way service time is accrued with regard to team control, how affiliated ball exploits minor league players, and how some teams get subsidized by the other owners all makes a team like the Oakland A's possible.

    This can be done in MLS but it's more difficult for two reasons. First, the gap in talent is far wider than on the majors. The difference between a good hitter and a bad hitter is like a hit a week. The difference between a good goal scorer and a bad one in MLS, well, there are tons of listed forwards who don't even get a single goal all season.

    Second, the payroll is already so dismally small, moneyball doesn't even really exist, there's hardly any room for it. Teams like Dallas and NYRB have found a great balance of experienced guys and home grown talent, but it's not like they are spending way less than any other team on average. The DP outliers rarely make that big a difference in terms of overall team performance.

    This Is a topic I find endlessly interesting, honestly.
     
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  12. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    this is where I'd disagree, teams that have been smart in their signing of DP's have had the most success, I don't think there can be any doubt about that.
     
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  13. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    When I say outliers, I'm referring more to the guys making far and away above everyone else. The Tim Howards of the league. There are some who have been excellent, certainly, but most have still had relatively modest contracts, well within what San Jose or any MLS owner could afford.
     
  14. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It took them 50 Years?
     
  15. bobby_guzman

    bobby_guzman Member+

    Oct 24, 2014
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're just as tired of his ass as we are.
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think they were waiting for him to retire but he never did.
     
  17. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    73-89. :(

    Next up: the 2019 season opener at the San Diego Padres on Thursday, March 28th.

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! [​IMG]


    -G
     
  18. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1-3-0. :(

    Next up: Levi's Stadium hosts the Arizona Cardinals.

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! [​IMG]


    -G
     
  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Buffalo real estate update:

    Munster House Buffalo.jpg

    https://www.realtor.com/realestatea...on-Park_Buffalo_NY_14201_M41296-11339?view=qv

    I've actually been in this home a couple times about 30 years ago, once for a dinner party inside and another time for a backyard barbecue. I dubbed it the Munster House. Interior seems consistent with my memory, although the couple who owned it had a pet mongoose with a run of the place back in the day. No sign of him in the photos. :)
     
  20. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    at least we've got the A's going up against the Yankees tonight at 5pm in the MLB wild card round and Sharks with their first game of the season tonight, 7:30 in Anaheim.
     
  21. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If the A's win the World Series, Dave Kaval will be (even more) insufferable. :)
     
  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Met Deanna (spelling?), the cousin of @falvo, tonight at Tony & Alba's.
     
  23. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the A's loss today, will Dave Kaval now simply be sufferable? :)

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! [​IMG]


    -G
     
  24. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any relation to Tori Spelling? :)

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  25. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    He's sui generis. :)
     

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