Should we focus on what we have and go for something in the euro's or do as we always seem to do and play up the new talent, and say how brilliant they all are before they have Even graced a pitch with the shirt on. Granted some new talent, lennon, richards and Ashton should be included but lets not jump in two feet. Basically i want to see England win something, will it take youth or a re jigged bunch of no-hopers in the current squad, excluding lennon, hargreaves possibly cole. And/Or is it managment to blame, as they seem to beleieve an automatic choice rule applies to some players, Gerrard, lampard, rooney, Terry automatic choices, Even Owen, a talent he may be i think we should hang fire on him. let him miss the Euros? As you can see i am confused........
You're not the only one confused , the England story remains an enigma! The team on paper sounds invincible and the squad has loads of talent but on the big stage they end up getting some sort of Traumatic Stress Syndrome and their legs just fail them. But to look at it from a slightly skewed angle, in recent times I believe England have never had a good coach. They need someone to get the best out of the players you have mentioned and stop relying on fan/media favourites. Maybe the premiership is too hedonistic and selfish to make players from different teams gel and acquire a sense of patriotism and play for England.
i think theo walcot will be pretty good in about 18 months time ready for the tourny too we have so many good young players i hjope by then either kirkland, carson or the man u loan keeper whsoe name escapes me at watford has replaced robinson the coach has realised gerrard should play in the middle with hargreaves with 2 fast wingers and rooney playing off a GOOD strong, target man who can actually compete in the air and finish well bent? ashton?
This 'team on paper' crap has to be drilled out of the players heads. For far to long now they've been told how they are the golden generation, and probably believed the hype. Truth is there are currently better national teams out there and if they ever want to win anything, they have to stop listening to the we have 8/9 world class players rubbish, and play against every team as if it were the world cup final against Brazil. (that's what I expect from a player who has been given the honor of playing for England). They need to stop being so scared of failure and actually go out with a Premiership tempo and try to win the game rather than trying not to lose it. I think one of the main problems with the England managers over the years, has been the massive amount of pressure that is heaped on their shoulders to succeed. This in turn probably translates over to the players who seem to play a 'fear of losing' style of play (the Brazil 2002 and Portugal 2004 games are prime examples of this, when after scoring they decided to stick 10 men behind the ball and defend the lead). I don't believe we can label these players with a lack of patriotism. If you look at their faces after the tornamount knock outs, it hurts.
Walcott needs more games. Wenger uses him as a right winger in the games that I have seen. what a waste.
how is it a waste? i guess henry playing on the left in the early stages of his career was a waste too? now he makes the left side his own a la his blackburn goal dumbass
Only a few players should come through for the euros, i Want to WIN. Walcott will be excellent but not sure how he will fit in to the fold, a super sub. Poss as a winger? like Arsenal use him. drop either Gerrard or Lampard, only one per team please otherwise we get the Chelsea effect. What players will feature? Kirkland/Robo/Carson Cole/Bridge Ferdinand Terry/King Neville/Richards Lennon/SWP/Walcott Gerrard/Lampard Hargreaves/Carrick J.Cole Rooney Ashton Pick from them in my book. Thats got to be the core unit.
jeez ,you're a complete and utter cock as always. signing off your posts with your real name as well. Walcott is a bench warmer for the most part and doesnt get used in his natural position .Henry was only converted to a central striker by wenger who gave him months of chances as a starter before he clicked in the role.
As it has been said before English players are invincible on paper and have loads of talent at club level. They wuss out on the international stage. Maybe England should try and select only the toughest players, the ones that look like they are hard all the time. Alan Smith- when he gets fit again Joey Barton- not exactly hard, but he ain't afraid to show his arse in front of a huge crowd Richards- intimidating, this guy has huge shoulders, he shouldn't be scared Rooney- he's already in the squad but he is a boxer so keep him D. Bent- one hardass striker Hargreaves- can run for over 120 minutes as shown vs. Portugal Crouch- not afraid to dance like a fool in front of a large crowd B. Foster- could kick anyone's ass Drop: Lampard- guy only does good when Essien is covering his arse A. Cole Robinson- this guy even gets scared in Croatia
Good squad except I'd add Young to LM, and if Ben Foster actually gets to Man Utd between now and 2010 add him in there too.
Refs are very strict at international level. Packing the team with "hardmen" could see us reduced to 9 men every game. Barton and smith are liabilities .Even the roonster has a bad temper. Crouch is the furthest thing from a hard man you could possibly imagine. He couldnt fight his way out of a wet grocery bag.
I'll bet those hardmen wouldn't miss penalties like Gerrard, Lamps, and (I forgot who missed the other one). Can anyone please delete that nasty pic off this thread. It grosses me out.
one of the mods will delete the gay porn. dont worry. But would they survive long enough to take the penalties without getting sent off?? Im all for bringing in new faces though. A remolded midfield of lennon ,hargreaves ,joe cole and gerrard .
Sounds like a good midfield to me. Hargreaves would provide the defense in the midfield and Gerrard could sit at the top of the 18 and wait to volley a few in (like in the FA Cup). ----------Gerrard------------- Lennon------------------J. Cole ---------Hargreaves---------- Scholes to come on as a supersub. (JK)
Those two bits are contradictory. You can't pile demands and expectations on players then wonder whey they're terrified of failing.
I enjoy that midfeild, futuristic and realistic, i like it. i think problems are unnder current thought. for some reason Mac isn't willing to play that midfield. i hope he does, We need Ashton, he will be a tirless worker for the team and has a good eye for goal. Reo Coker in the squad, i feel it may be pushing it, we need a solid group and unfortunately players like that need to miss out, tough love. Get rid of Jenus from the squad.
Not at all. It means playing all teams as if they were top class football sides, instead of thinking they've already won when they first step out onto the pitch against sides like Macedonia. It means playing even freindlies as if they were important so that the team can get some cohesion and time together rather than making a million substitutes and watching them fall apart. It doesn't mean crapping themselves because they're scared to lose.
playing on the right will help walcotts positional play and give managers more options where to use him he played on the wing for southampton alot before he moved and is just as able to play there as he is upfront
It will help his play if he intends to be a winger. Walcott has to play centrally regularly and not be used as a part time winger.
It will be good to have the option of him as a winger. Fergie tries it with Rooney, and England prob will. i Would rather have Walcott on the wing than rooney. Could play a five man midfield that way and still have a good attacking threat. Rooney J.Cole/Walcott Lennon Gerrard Lampard Hargreaves England do poo there pants against anybody,the croatia game was a joke. stiffen up and earn a good 0-0
have you ever watched an England game where they have tried to play Rooney as a lone striker.. It's disaster... He gets bombarded with defenders as soon as he gets the ball. He is best playing behind a fast, SMART, clinical finisher, ala Owen.. Owen takes pressure off of Rooney, and vice versa. Defenders can't just single one player out. They are forced to give both players respect on the pitch. I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record.