What is the problem with Canada?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by LouisianaViking07/09, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Seems like with Vagner Love's departure, Cyle Larin will get regular starts for Besiktas!
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #1577 Ger90, Aug 16, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2018
    and Jonathan David scores again, all of his goals are as a sub player, to give Gent the 3-1 lead (4-1 on aggregate)

    2 goals in 2 games in Europe.
    and 5 goals in 4 games in the 2018-2019 season.

    he's currently scored in every game he's played for Gent. Totaling something like 65 minutes.
     
  3. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's crazy!

    Why the hell isn't he starting?

    OTOH, perhaps being a sub is some kinda good luck at this point!
     
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  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    David just like Davies are also opening the door for more Canadians.

    David is from Canada, a football market that few clubs have walked to date. The opening of the Ghent pearl also opens the eyes of other teams.

    "In the meantime I already received phones from Club Brugge and Anderlecht to work with them for Canadian talents in the future", says David Nikos Mavromaras, David's agent in Het Nieuwsblad.
    https://www.voetbalkrant.com/nl/nie...ten-in-actie-na-ontluiking-van-jonathan-david

    those 2 clubs are also on the bigger side when it comes to Belgium football.
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Exactly!

    Canada always had the talent and surprisingly, great academies. The structure was nonexistent until now.

    Those who think CPL will be weak will be surprised. What do you think will happen when they are finally given the professional environment to push themselves to the next level? They will thrive and reach their potential.
     
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  7. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remind him to take a deck chair.
     
  9. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ufa is from a good league in Russia, but their 10.676 coefficient is low by the standards of a club in the Playoff Round. Bordeaux's 11.283 is a little better than Ufa's. Bordeaux used to be much better than they are now. In 2009-2010, they had 5 wins and 1 draw in a Champions League group that had Bayern Munich and Juventus! Bordeaux is the most recent club to win both Group Stage games against Bayern Munich. Partizan has a 17.000, but that's much worse than Besiktas's 57.000.
     
  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    http://www.nesoccerjournal.com/berkshire-jacob-shaffelburg-professional-soccer-options/

    Jacob Shaffelburg,
    the reigning Massachusetts Gatorade Player of the Year, has significant interest to sign a professional contract in Europe or with Major League Soccer, said a source with direct knowledge of the situation.

    Shaffelburg, a Nova Scotia native entering his senior season at the Berkshire School, could sign with MLS and be eligible for the 2019 MLS SuperDraft in January. German clubs 1. FC Nürnberg, Werder Bremen and Fortuna Dusseldorf have also shown interest in the forward
     
  12. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Seems like the Canadian Premier League future looks bright as the next generation of players are very talented and are proving it.

    After HFX Wanderers select defeating Fortuna Dusseldorf U team, York 9 Select achieved this tonight
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  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I'm very comfortable in saying that Scott Arified is among the top midfield in CONCACAF. He proved it during is tenure at Burnley in EPL and continues in Scottish premiership.
     
  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    That was fast. Extended until 2022. If he keeps this up they will be in a great position to sell him for a good amount
     
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  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  16. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    The future looks so bright for our boys and yours. Mexico, better watch out.
     
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  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    any quality keepers coming up through the pipeline for ya?
     
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I would say Busti is our best prospect so far...

    #1 Milan Borjan (30) Red Star, Superliga - Serbia
    His team is in the Champions League qualification finals.

    #2 Jayson Leutwiler (29), Blackburn, Championship

    Tied #2 (up and coming fast)
    Alessandro Busti (18), Juventus U19

    #3 Maxime Crepeau (24), Ottawa Fury, USL

    #4 Axel Desjardins (18), Spezia, Serie B

    #5 Sebatian Breza (20), Potenza, Serie C
     
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  19. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I hope, as CPL does have potential but the reality is that it will take several years for it to compete. We can't expect a newly formed league, with a cap budget to boot, to compete with MLS who also has a cap budget or against leagues who have no cap budget ala Liga MX. It will be difficult at first. Just look at how MLS started and how it has improved over 20+ years now that better players are arriving due to a salary increase. It is no mystery that the more money a league or clubs have, the better quality of players they can grab. I know it will eventually grow, it has potential as Canada is rich economically speaking. They just came to the party years late. If they would have started the same time as MLS or even ten years ago, that will be time advanced for them. But here is hoping that this area of the globe grows so we can have a better Champions League in the years to come.
     
  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #1595 Robert Borden, Aug 25, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2018
    For the life of me, I really don't get it. Where did I say it would compete with MLS? I said the league would be surprisingly good for it's 1st year, that's all.

    But you can't neglect giving 1st team minutes to youth players. Mexico does that and CPL plans to double down on that.

    Another reason why comparing CPL and MLS is something I just don't do. It's 2 very different leagues trying to achieve 2 very different objectives.

    Where Liga MX is the "La Liga" of CONCACAF and MLS is trying to be the EPL of the region (without pro/rel), CPL's goal is to be the "Ligue 1" of the region. Massive emphasis in youth development, while building up the league to the point of acquiring stronger internationals so those youth players can play with. Then sell to higher leagues.

    It's undeniable that it's working for France. Their pyramid is arguably the best in the world for developing youth players, their top league isn't the best but can compete but the benefits to the national team is undeniable.

    That's the goal of the CSA & CPL.

    We didn't host a world cup in 1994 like the US did, unfortunately. We're the 10th economy on the planet so our league will be fine. They have learned from past mistakes and from other leagues mistakes and good shots.

    The creation of CSB (Canadian SUM) is acknowledging that MLS had a brilliant idea there. Salary cap to control expenses and stabilizing the league is another lesson learned. The league has also learned from things that didnt worked so well too hence the modest starting point for year 1.

    I'm a fan of Canadian soccer but I'm realistic about where it is as of today, however very optimistic about tomorrow. Where looking at a return for Canada to it's rightful place in the region since the mid 90s, as a top regional power.

    The CSA is already in the process of getting additional Champions League spots to Canada based on past performances. The CSA will hand over any additional berth to the Canadian Premier League. The good thing about the league is that it will give playing opportunities to not only Canadians, but to Americans, Mexicans, Caribbeans and Central Americans.

    These new spots helps the region as a whole thanks to the arrival of a new Division 1 league. Of course, helping all those players won't be at the expense of Canadian players. CPL will require that
    • half the roster be Canadians
    • 6 of 11 on the pitch be Canadians at ALL TIME
    • Minimum of allocated minutes to youth players.
     
  21. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The CPL should have an easier time starting up though. MLS went through the struggles because there was little interest in soccer in this country then. If they didn't have the novelty of hosting the WC a few years earlier MLS would have been gone after a few years. MLS's popularity in Canada with having a few teams there coupled with better internet and new TV deals have made catching European games easier will help the Canadian league gain traction quicker.

    The novelty of a new league will keep curious fans interested for at least the first 2 seasons (19, 20). The Hex will probably start be during the 21 season and hopefully Canada will be involved. (judging by the young talent they have, they should) Whether Canada makes the '22 WC or not the 22 season will probably still be a success. Also they could use the Nations League as a way to integrate CPL players into the national team pool.
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Jonathan David is starting to prove that he's for real. He started his first game officially today and scored.
     
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  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Milan Borjan's Red Star advances to Champions League Group Stage. 1st time in a decade that a Canadian Goalkeeper will be a starter in the Champions League
     
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  24. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1599 EvanJ, Aug 29, 2018
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2018
    Red Star/Crvena zvezda came back from down 2-0 for a 2-2 draw to advance on away goals. It's their first time in the Champions League Group Stage since 1991-1992, when it was the European Cup. The season before that, they won the European Cup. The Group Stage draw will be tomorrow. One website said it will be on TNT in the USA, but TNT's website doesn't have it listed.
     
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  25. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada


    CANADA SQUAD
    1- GK- Maxime Crépeau | CAN / Ottawa Fury FC
    2- FB- Zachary Brault-Guillard | FRA / Olympique Lyonnais
    3- CB- Manjrekar James | DEN / FC Fredericia
    4- CB- Derek Cornelius | SRB / FK Javor Ivanjica
    5- CB- Dejan Jaković | USA / Los Angeles FC
    6- M- Samuel Piette | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    7- M- Russell Teibert | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    8- M- David Wotherspoon | SCO / St. Johnstone FC
    9- F- Cyle Larin | TUR / Beşiktaş JK
    10- W- David Junior Hoilett | WAL / Cardiff City FC
    11- F- Tosaint Ricketts | CAN / Toronto FC
    12- W- Alphonso Davies | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    13- M- Jay Chapman | CAN / Toronto FC
    14- W- Liam Millar | ENG / Liverpool FC U-23
    15- CB- Doneil Henry | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    16- M- Scott Arfield | SCO / Glasgow Rangers FC
    17- FB- Marcel de Jong | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    18- GK- Milan Borjan | SRB / FK Crvena zvezda (Red Star Belgrade)
    19- F- Lucas Cavallini | MEX / Puebla FC
    20- F- Jonathan David | BEL / KAA Gent
    21- M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
    22- GK- Alessandro Busti | ITA / Juventus Primavera
    23- W- Tesho Akindele | USA / FC Dallas
     

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