What happened to interest in the Rhinos

Discussion in 'Rochester Rhinos' started by Revolt, Aug 2, 2010.

  1. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oops Dixon to Jacksonville Armada, not Ottawa.

    Here are the 10 signed for next year:
    Humberto Fortes "Duba" dos Santos
    Christian Volesky
    Asani Samuels
    Tony Walls
    Kenardo Forbes
    Marcos Ugarte
    Grant Van de Casteele
    Vassilis Apostolopoulos
    Sean Totsch
    Adam Grinwis

    unsigned:
    Onua Obasi, Drew Ruggles, Julian Ringhof, Christian Silva, Mike Garzi, Johnny Mendoza, Nate Bourdeau, and Colin Rolfe
     
  2. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rob was a nice guy, but I always got the clear feeling that soccer was not his business...sigh
     
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  5. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the long term, this could be helpful. But I think that it will be difficult to get quality players to come with the unknown ownership situation.
     
  6. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    So a league owned team like the Silverbacks 2015 ?
     
  8. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would guess so, unless they can find a buyer. The MLS did this as well with some of the teams in the early years.
     
  9. drew_VT_6

    drew_VT_6 Member

    Feb 22, 2000
    Orange County, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More details from Devo:
    http://www.democratandchronicle.com...-rhinos-owner-usl-looking-new-owner/78316180/


    Funny how all the new USL team owners follow the "Rochester Formula" to build interest in their team. In my mind the "Rochester Formula" equals put out all kinds of leaks or flat out statements to local media that this team despite playing in the mostly irrelevant minor leagues has Major League ambitions. Use these real or perceived Major League ambitions to drive support for a new facility where the team controls all revenue, possibly even garnering public funding for said stadium. Schedule friendlies with Major US and foreign based teams. Focus on success in Open Cup competition. Get higher level players to buy into a a lower contract for a team that could carry them to the "Majors". Use said players to achieve significant success in a lower league.

    Some teams with legitimate resources and capabilities have been successful (Orlando), some have floundered (see Austin), some remain to be seen (Louisville, new Charlotte team, San Antonio - virtually all non-affiliated teams). Rochester had all the buzz in the early 2000's that helped drive attendances in a city starved for a sports team with national relevance (largest MSA in US without even a D1 NCAA team). Toronto, Seattle, Portland had TERRIBLE USL attendance without any links in those cities to a possible MLS move. It'll be interesting now to see how/if a new owner can create a sustainable business plan for lower division soccer success. Whatever it is, any success that comes of it will likely be followed by the next round of teams that fall through the MLS expansion filters.

    I've followed prosoccer in the US since the early 90s - can you say Colorado Foxes? - and had some up close experience with the rise/fall of the Rhinos. I recall writing in the early 2000s that the only sustainable model for the lower divisions was to create a baseball style farm system where prospects for the "Big Club" and the US National teams could drive up local interest and perceived importance of the league. Search my BS.com posts from back in the day and you'll find my insistence on the importance of growing the base of the pro-soccer pyramid in US. While it's exciting to see the successes of new pro-soccer markets, I'm quite intrigued by how once proud soccer-cities like Rochester, Chicago, DC can return to their "glory days".
     
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  10. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  11. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    I really hope they find someone with the drive and money to turn this around. With the city behind the project maybe they can take additional steps to better the area around the stadium. (they have already gotten started on revamping 48 households in the neighborhood, which is great) i personally dont care, as i was at every match this season but i know others do care.
     
  12. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Colin Rolfe is now with Real Monarchs. Darn, I liked him.
     
  13. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    i liked him, but wont miss him...with volesky, dos santos and Samuel's are all better if not the same as colin.
     
  14. RobtheAggie

    RobtheAggie Member+

    Sep 10, 2001
    Middle Georgia
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. soccerFrank

    soccerFrank Member

    Dec 11, 2011
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    Obasi gone too....leaves for Ottawa FC
     
  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Doesn't look like the Rhinos will be league owned for very long.
    http://www.uslsoccer.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=32800&ATCLID=210639086
     
  17. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Bob Lilley still there?
     
  18. Flowercitysupporter

    Sep 23, 2015
    Club:
    Rochester Rhinos
    yes he is returning! ive herd the key players they have lost was because they were signed for triple they made with the rhinos. pat mcmanon cashed in with cinci because they wanted a USL champion on their squad, so cinci way overpaid for him. im confident lilley will find someone better for cheaper.

    if just about offical the rhinos will be owned by dworkin family and put a lot of money into the team. we will have by far the best facilities in USL soon.
     
  19. mng146

    mng146 Member

    Jul 19, 2011
    Rochester, NY
    Lilley is now in his second year of a three year contract.
     
  20. Looper121

    Looper121 Member

    United States
    Jun 19, 2003
    Sec 104
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm glad the Rhinos will continue to operate. If they had not been able to make the field a year after winning the USL Championship, that would really have sucked for Rochester.
     
  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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