West Ham v. The Arsenal, Saturday January 12 2019, 1230 GMT

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by mebeSajid, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. poetgooner

    poetgooner Member+

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Actually, it's even worse. Statistically, our defense is worse than in Wenger's worst season.
     
  2. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    this isn't fun
     
  3. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And he relies on Guendouzi too much. He’ll be good but he isn’t going to win a game for you when you need it and isn’t ready to play this much at this level yet.

    We need players that set up when needed. Our only player like that is starting on the bench each match.
     
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  4. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guen has killed so many attacks today
     
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  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huge crowd today. 59000. Well dine to their fans.
     
  6. SaratogaGooner

    Nov 23, 2009
    Clifton Park NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess the honeymoon is over. That was a FLAT FLAT performance.
     
  7. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need points. If Emery can’t get Özil to do more than what Guendouzi is currently bringing he is a poor manager.
     
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  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure either if those things are primarily his fault. But he doesn't seem to have the answers lately. Pressure will mount.
     
  9. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Well, that was unfortunate. West Ham deserved the win.
     
  10. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    Different types of players, and Guen has a bad game going forward. With that said, this would have been the type of game that Ozil could have helped. We didn’t really create any great chances the whole game.
     
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  11. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This would be first home win by them against us since 2006. That's a bad look.
     
  12. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Deserved loss for us and deserved win for WHU. We need to go to work, this ain't good enough.
     
  13. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The loss also comes down to an individual error. Xhaka to blame this time.
     
  14. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Very tame performance on the whole. A 15 minute spell but other than that Arsenal were devoid of creativity and abysmal at retaining possession. Based on this display top 6 feels in jeopardy.

    Defensively the team lacked hustle and decisiveness. They were so slow and disjointed in their ball movement and gave WHU far too much time on the ball. The game had the feel of a team fatigued.

    Offensively simply not enough in support of the strikers. The midfield was simply meek and failed to impose their game.

    Absolutely hate WHU so this sucks.
     
  15. SaratogaGooner

    Nov 23, 2009
    Clifton Park NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depressing. We don't play/like Ozil. Ramsey (the only spark today) is gone. Half our players are not good/old. Were not in a good place at all.
     
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  16. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I can't ever blame a whole game on one moment. Arsenal had 90 minutes to do something and couldn't create enough threats nor prevent WHU from getting a winner.
     
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  17. banco

    banco Member

    Mar 27, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I was told Özil was the problem :rolleyes:
     
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  18. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Need a proper clean out still. Can't expect to have a new manager come in and keep guys like Xhaka and Iwobi and expect to do well. This team has so many passengers it's not funny.
     
  19. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s real bad. Agreed.

    Our two best creators are on their way out. We have no money to bring anyone in. Our defense sucks. Our forwards can’t get service and we have a lot of old players on serious wages. We have no style of play.

    We have no chance at top 4. Down to FA Cup and Europa and we don’t look like we’ll challenge for either.

    Emery needs to answer for his part in this.
     
  20. crazy150

    crazy150 Member+

    Aug 27, 2006
    North Cuba
    Cue the boo-boys. Fairly poor performance overall. There was a stretch where I thought we were sharp and then nothing. Guen and xhaka didn’t have the long passes dialed in was a big issue.

    Otherwise I think we need to credit west ham. They are pretty good. Pellegrini is a good manager had them setup well to defend and they have bought well. Anderson and nasri gave them quite a bit of control.

    Neither team really created much to be honest—XG was 0.67 to 0.65. Iwobi missed his chance and rice took his. That’s pretty much the story for me. Not great, it’s clear we need more creation than just through the full backs and long balls, but that will require personel shifting I think. So patience is in order—probably need to focus on the Europa league and hopefully the FA Cup. Top four is probably dusted.
     
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  21. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Run around a lot and miss whatever chances you do get. Emery ball.
     
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  22. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that’s the big picture issue. Pelligrini got a lesser squad to play up, while Emery got a better squad to underperform.

    We shouldn’t be like WH. Our aim and expectation is much higher. But that’s where we are right now. We are where Spurs were and where Everton hung out. 5-8 spot without seriously challenging for top 4 and occasional cup run.
     
  23. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    And an inability to create a lot of chances.
     
  24. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He deserves his players to implement this run around style fully.
     
  25. SaratogaGooner

    Nov 23, 2009
    Clifton Park NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Overall theme...nothing has changed. Our long win streak was a mirage that somehow we had turned the corner. Performances like today (and the Pool drubbing) demonstrate just the opposite. What happens when Ramsey is gone? (and who knows what the Ozil situation will be). Patience, yes, but when does the "rebuild" begin? Probably not under this owner or anytime soon.
     

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