Welcome Marco Asensio

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  1. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    And that is why you have players like Asensio saying what they say, regardless of how wrong it is to "say".
    Nationality plays 0 role in team selection, if it did, Ceballos would be ahead of Modric and Llorente would have benched Casemiro. It definitely does in our transfer policy, which makes sense, because you'd want your local teams to promote your local players and that's the case with the vast majority of clubs in the world.
     
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  2. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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  3. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    Is right here. Still says “I am still young and other players have to pull the car” then says what you quoted. Then later on says “it seems like everyone is jumping on me when things don’t go well.

    He is not taking criticism very well ..
     
  4. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Asensio has started in 9 La Liga games out of 12 and has 1 goal and an assist. It's not like he's been a bench player this season. And even against that third division team, his only contribution was that goal. No different than Bale scoring and assisting against Plzen while not doing much else. Vinicius was far more impactful against third division team in CDR. Started against Valladolid and did nothing just like Bale.

    Asensio should be contributing way more as he has started in so many games rather than being petulant in public. If anything it should be Mariano who should be complaining after Lope convinced him to reject Sevilla only to see bench time here. These comments felt more like attempt to deflect from his performances.
     
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  5. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    Now that he's had his 15 minutes of fame seems like he's content. That's a shame but the club needs to be more aware of not only players talent and potential but also character and determintion.

    We sold James for peanuts and passed up on Hazard for this kid and now he's decided if you don't get the Mbappe treatment you stop giving fcks.
     
  6. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    I don't think anyone expected him to be the #1 guy this season and both him and Isco are fairly well protected by the Spanish media. I expected him to score 10-12 goals if he starts 25 odd league games as a step up from last season.

    Even last season when Isco had a great performance against Argentina in friendly, blame was put on ZZ for not getting the best out of him. And then ZZ said RM plays 60 games and NT plays 6 a year.
     
  7. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    New York Cosmos
    On top of it he is incoherent, wants more responsibily but does not want to pull the car nor critized. Great

    There are some good opinion articles on marca on what his words mean to most madridistas and why they are so dissapointed with him right now for those who can read spanish.
     
  8. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    9 out of 12 games is nothing for a 22 year old. You can't bail after 9 games. It's funny how "it's not different than Bale", but Bale is the one getting paid the big money and Bale is the one that continues to start, and Bale is the one that goes to the President's office when he doesn't start. If he's no different than Bale, why are you starting the 29 year old injury prone player over the 22 year old promising player? At least take your chance with a player that has potential to grow.

    BTW, bringing up Mariano is not invalidating the point he's making, it's actually making it stronger. Mariano and Vinicius have just as much right as players ahead of them haven't played better at all, but keep getting starts because of their "status".
     
  9. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    You keep bringing up Bale but Asensio is not outplaying him. In those 12 games Bale had 4 goals and 3 assists.
    Everyone already knew Bale was going to be a starter this season when healthy and with CR7 out of the picture his replacement on the starting Xi was Asensio - which is why Hazard was not brought in but he is now being benched by LV not Bale.
     
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  10. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Again, you keep missing the point, whether on purpose or not. It doesn't matter if anyone is outplaying Bale or not (which BTW, he is being outplayed and those stats are absolutely meaningless). It's the fact that despite form, Bale gets a starting job. On the other hand, Asensio or Isco are dropped when they hit a rough patch, while players like Mariano or VJ aren't even given an opportunity.
    This is utter BS. Bale was on the right, Asensio was on the left. Bale gets moved to the left, LV takes over on the right.
     
  11. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    You really thought Bale would be a bench player this season.. specially without CR7 and no new reinforcements?
     
  12. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Can you explain to me why it's a foreign idea to have Bale hit the bench?
     
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  13. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    Right now because we don't have others who are better who can step up (LV) & Vinicious is too young. We all knew we needed new players but the club through we were fine with Asensio and Isco because they would step up.. (supposedly)
     
  14. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Wait, how are players supposed to step up when they're sitting on the bench?
     
  15. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    So why you think Solari benched him.?. 2nd time I ask you..
     
  16. fierro

    fierro Member+

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    El Chuco
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    James and Morata managed it, but in the end all they earned were transfers to the destination of their choice. I'm sure Marco watched and learned from this and, unfortunately, it is influencing his perspective right now.

    He will be a good player at place like Newcastle where those 4 or 5 golazos each season will be enough to keep the fans satisfied.

    Give his minutes to VJ, and lets start over with trying to "build a Balon d'Or" winner from scratch.


    CR7 leaving and no replacement coming in left a gaping hole to fill, and that combined with Lopetegui's appointment as manager paved the way for Isco and Asensio to have a smooth ride; yet here we are.
     
  17. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    Sadly for him this is what is going to end up happening for his poor choice of words, weak mentality and throwing other team players under the bus..IN PUBLIC
     
  18. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
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    Because Bale walks into the presidents office when he gets benched..
    This idea that James stepped up from the bench is a myth. He was anonymous .
     
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  19. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

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    James did well with the little time given.

    Anyways, I think both sides are right here. Asensio has a right to feel frustrated by the double standard, but his attitude about it is pretty shitty.

    Can we move on?
     
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  20. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    You mean like when he tied the game against Barca in just a few minutes after coming in..
    His goals and assists per minutes played were the best in the club.
     
  21. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

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    Aug 9, 2018
    Whats with the James lovefest here, am i missing something?
     
  22. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    So why didn't he get more starts?
     
  23. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    We are not just talking about James.. follow the thread and see how other players have come up like Morata & Isco ..
     
  24. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    overbooking + Bale + promoting Spanish talent, which is the same reason why we did not bring in Hazard in the summer.
     
  25. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Hmmm so it works for James that there are other factors at work to explain his lack of playing time, but suddenly, why question the coach when he benches Asensio for Bale. Enough said.
     
  26. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    - James was delivering when he played.. same as Morata . Asensio is not.
    - There were more players back then.. and James was working against the Spanish bias + Bale..
    - Asensio has been pampered and was served the starting role on a silver platter, which James never did after Carlo left.
     

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