Post-match: WC 2014 (semi): Brasil x Alemanha, 8 de Julho de 2014 [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil' started by Century's Best, Jul 4, 2014.

  1. leonidas

    leonidas Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    May 25, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    to be honest, this is the first time that I recall preparation being a major factor. Brazil simply didn't train, whereas in previous cups, we at least trained. I suppose there's an argument against the circus type training in Weggis in 2006, though.
     
  2. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    he wasn't commenting on the act itself but in the way they were holding the shirt:

    "They were singing with such fervour as if to buck up their courage. They put themselves under too much pressure, something visible in the way Julio Cesar and David Luiz held up Neymar’s jersey during the national anthem."

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  3. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    If we hadn't won in 94 and 02, they also would have criticized somehow the relaxed attitude of the team in the bus playing samba and pagode. IMO they were just trying to be pumped. Specially because they knew the game plan was to come out with an intimidating high pressure.
     
  4. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    @ESPNagora: Áudio vaza com Felipão dizendo que Brasil poderia ter diminuído para 5 a 4 contra Alemanha http://t.co/V5omeRlBlJ
     
  5. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What?
     
  6. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    An audio leak of Felipão saying Brazil could have cut it to a 5-4 game after the half..... :rolleyes:
     
  7. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Okey dokey, now I think Scolari's getting senile in his old age.
     
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  8. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    My mistake, meant Germany 5-4. Couldn't edit my post quick enough with this slow internet...
     
  9. MatthausSammer

    MatthausSammer Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Canada
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Meh. Either way we win.
     
  10. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    "Uma fatalidade não pode destruir um trabalho... Nunca mais, nem daqui a mil anos, cara. Eles foram sete vezes no primeiro tempo e fizeram cinco gols. Nos dez primeiros minutos do segundo tempo, se eu mostrar o tape, nós criamos quatro chances de gol. Se nós tivéssemos acertado as quatro ia estar 5 a 4 em dez minutos? É coisa de louco para pensar", afirmou.
     
  11. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Felipao is really making himself looking worse by saying these things. He says we created 4 chances before Germany scored. Yeah ... crosses and speculative are now scoring chances. And that Germany scored in 5 of it's 7 initial chances, which he calls a fatality. All of them were however with the defense "escancarada". I hope he knows he is BSing ... but he should know he is fooling nobody.

    He should have stopped at "it was my fault".
     
  12. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    You got that right.
     
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  13. PapaDoc23

    PapaDoc23 Member

    Apr 9, 2012
    Brooklyn,New York
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Scolari is seriously on damage control. And looking delusional.
     
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  14. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Yet here we are using the same excuses, instead of just accepting that losing is part of the game, Germany has lost everything they played since 1996... yet you don't see them making up excuses in order to change the team completely and fire their coach.
     
  15. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    actually the signs and symptoms of somebody being afraid are the same exact one as somebody being extremely aware and ready for a fight... so.. lose the fight afraid win the fight concentrated?
     
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  16. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil

    or are they?

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    I just think you're generalizing, yeah some people do show that silent stoic confidence, but they aren't always the same signs.
     
  17. Guigs

    Guigs Member+

    Dec 9, 2011
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    it's called fight or flight response, yes it's the same response
     
  18. samuel_clemens

    Dec 20, 2005
    Los Angeles CA
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Alemão Lothar Matthäus critica brasileiros: "sempre choram"


    ex-jogador alemão Lothar Matthäus, campeão do mundo em 1990 e vice-campeão em 1986, assegurou neste domingo que o Brasil não fez uma partida boa na Copa do Mundo e lamentou que os jogadores brasileiros tenham o costume de chorar tão frequentemente.

    "Não compreendo por que um jogador de futebol chora. Os brasileiros sempre choram. Toca seu hino, choram; eliminam o Chile, choram; perdem para a Alemanha, choram. Têm que mostrar que são homens, que são fortes. Nunca vi nada tão nefasto como a linguagem corporal dessa equipe", comentou o ex-jogador em uma entrevista publicada pela revista Le Journal du Dimanche.

    O ex meio-campo do Bayern de Munique e da Inter de Milão se mostrou muito duro em suas declarações com a atuação do Brasil na semifinal contra seu país, na qual perdeu por um histórico 7 a 1.


    "Sua ausência era sua única preocupação antes da semifinal. Me surpreendeu. Neymar não está morto, que eu saiba. Está lesionado de maneira feia e sinto muito por isso, mas uma equipe tem que ser mais forte que um jogador", acrescentou Matthäus, de 53 anos.

    Em relação ao resultado dessa semifinal, o ex-centrocampista aelmão disse ter se surpreendido pelo número de gols que o Brasil levou e lembrou que "é preciso duas equipes para uma atuação assim: uma muito boa e uma muito ruim".

    "Havia um verdadeiro perigo psicológico para os brasileiros, a sobrecarga de emoções. Pagaram por isso. Não fizeram uma partida boa em todo o Mundial, salvo 30 minutos contra a Colômbia nas quartas de final", acrescentou Matthäus.

    Ele ressaltou, além disso, que ao longo do torneio os brasileiros "tiveram sorte com a arbitragem, sorte contra o Chile... não é o Brasil iluminado que gostamos de ver".

    Em relação a seu país, assegurou que a seleção alemã tem grandes chances de levantar o título de campeã do mundo contra a Argentina, no Maracanã, às 16h (de Brasília).

    "Talvez não tenhamos jogadores tão brilhantes como Messi ou Neymar, mas temos uma equipe que desenvolveu um estilo diferente, mais técnico, que o da Alemanha de há trinta anos. Nos damos conta de que o futebol alemão é agradável", concluiu.
     
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  19. canis

    canis Member

    Jun 10, 2014
    La reina del Plata
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I don´t think bra71lians had a fond memory of him before this, so it shouldn´t make much of a difference.
     
  20. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    No wonder not even the Germans like him.
     
  21. XaviandXabi

    XaviandXabi Member

    May 4, 2005
    CT
    I liked the article. He makes a good point about how our players deal with emotions. In a way, it was the same thing in 2010.
     
  22. Cuppo

    Cuppo Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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    A promise is a promise. ;)
     
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  23. Lockeroom

    Lockeroom Member

    Apr 11, 2008
  24. thealchemist

    thealchemist New Member

    Jul 1, 2014
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Thanks for making them the eternal second places. I had a German flag and everything. For now at least, German has set a new football standard.
     
  25. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    We know it's been in the media so this was for real: that Brazilians and all of Rio was rooting for Germany? The Brazilians in the stadium did for sure. There is a tweet by Jolie Foudy that she was at the airport and she knew Germany must have scored cause the Brazilians were jumping for joy.
     

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