Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Bad loan I absolutely agree with, letting the contract run down, I'm not sure. Do you renew while a player is rehabbing from an ACL injury. Some players are never quite the same after they tear their ACLs. I think Walcott is a good example. When Pulis didn't play Gnabry, Wenger had very little chance to evaluate Gnabry's recovery before he returned to training at Arsenal in January, perhaps explaining the delay in looking to renew his contract.

    That said, Wenger did keep renewing Diaby.
     
  2. mebeSajid

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    Gnabry was young enough and inexpensive enough that extending him was a low risk/high reward type move.
     
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  3. thebigman

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    We all liked gnabry, Wenger had too much on his plate as stated and he moved on after a shit loan to Pulis (any other wba would’ve been fine as they are known to play good football)

    gnabry was clearly talented and recovered well from a huge injury,just u fortunate we lost him
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

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    IMO the reason he went on a shit loan is because weng was done with him

    If weng cared he never would have gone out on such a rubbish loan
     
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  5. Shen-O

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    maybe if Jitty didn’t quit Arsenal before, Gnabs would still be here
     
  6. mebeSajid

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    Feb 16, 2009
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    We sent Jack Wilshere on loan to Bolton Wanderers.

    Edit: The guiding assumption here appears to be that there was completely rational and well thought out decisionmaking made with regard to both playing Gnabry and his loan. That's an incorrect assumption: it's clear that Arsenal rated Gnabry pre-injury, and then did something really freaking dumb by loaning him out to a side managed by Tony Pulis.

    Corroborating evidence here is that almost all of Arsenal's loans under Wenger were incredibly dumb. The only ones that might not have been were the loan of Bendtner to Brum (which was decent), Vela to Osasuna (he played), Sneezy (wherever the hell he went), and Bellerin (though he didn't play a ton at Watford).
     
  7. bandwagongooner

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    edit - I confused his loan in 2009 with his loan after getting hurt for like 3 straight years. whoops
     
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  8. ArsenalJake

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  9. mebeSajid

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    He’s going to be the one that got away for a looooong time.
     
  10. Walia Ibex

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    Oct 2, 2019
    I know so counterproductive every "big club" and I don't even know I can call us that anymore has let many good/great young players go before their potential was fully met for a number of reasons. No point going back and forth. Need to focus on the Europa league now.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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  12. And_ROOS

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    Seems someone dug up a Dele tweet from 2012 when he was at MK Dons
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. yossarian

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    Oh by all means, let's rehash discussions that have been done to death.

    I can't believe we botched convincing Kompany to sign with us in 2006.
     
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  14. NorthBank

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    Yeah, certain people just. can't. let. go.
     
  15. Dage

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    If you're not interested, you probably should just not participate?
     
  16. Serengeti_Boy

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    He'll be benched. Not a Jose player.
     
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  17. thebigman

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    we already have gone over it so there is no need now
     
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  18. NorthBank

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    Have you seen me participate in the recent rehashing of ancient issues like Gnabry & Wenger?
     
  19. mebeSajid

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    A confrontational, diving prat who's decent at pressing from the front? Alli is the *perfect* Jose player.
     
  20. And_ROOS

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  21. thebigman

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  22. Walia Ibex

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    Man United is getting bossed @ Sheffield United. 2-0 at Bramall Lane for the Blades. Does Ole get sacked before Emery?
     
  23. Walia Ibex

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    Better that he slapped him around and embarrassed him like the sniveling punk that he is then destroy him. Not worth his time!
     
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  24. NorthBank

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    #22424 NorthBank, Nov 24, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2019
    I suppose it's scant consolation, but certainly a little helpful to see ManUre being bossed and dominated by Sheffield United, perhaps even worse than we were yesterday? (2-0 and 35' to go at a rocking Bramall Lane)

    Sheffield United... talk about a team with optimism, urgency, and a clear sense of style and identity. I wonder if Emery is watching and if so if he's learning anything? :p

    Edit: since I wrote this, The tide has completely turned and they've tied it up at 2-2. And unlike us, they've done it with 12+ minutes to play.

    Edit: moments later it's now 3-2 to ManU. Apparently I never should've made this post. Sorry.
     
  25. Walia Ibex

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    Oct 2, 2019
    3-2 now with Rashford goal.
     

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