Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by GunneRy, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Same as PSG
     
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  2. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    No Messi, no Barca. Eek.

    Also Coutinho off to Bayern, and still heaps of rumours that Neymar to Madrid is a done deal.
     
  3. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    So, as I was saying....
     
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  4. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    After 1 game lol...come on. Lets revisit this in January.
     
  5. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Without Messi this is what they are.
     
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  6. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Believe in De Jong. He’s frustrated at their refusal to play 1-2s with him, he will make them see the light.
     
  7. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    When the folks at Citeh claim "This is our city" are they referring to Abu Dhabi? Just wondering.
     
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  8. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'll repeat what I said during WWC--as constituted, VAR is an impending disaster for the entire sport
     
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  9. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You should see how its used in Italy...joke man
     
  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What happened today was a travesty.
     
  11. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    It’s making football a gimmick

    Almost like an American sport lol
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    A goal getting overturned for a handball? It's only a travesty because it benefitted Tottenham.
     
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  13. danielh

    danielh Member+

    May 30, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Talk about sucking the life out of the game. VAR is bad I agree, but it is a quadratic compound with interest bad with the new rules. At this rate I imagine the league will have at least 50+ pts given and taken away on marginal decisions.

    Turning all of last years handballs in the box into penalties regardless of intention is bad for the game. At this rate I would just coach players to shoot at outstretched arms in the box. You only have to graze it and you'll get a penalty, which percentages should go up now that the GK must be on the line.
     
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  14. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fake chip shots into someone’s arms is my favorite way to win a PK in rec leagues :D Just get scoop that bish up lol
     
  15. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Stupid rule introduced by stupid people
     
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  16. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, really? It's a zero-tolerance rule AFAIC; if the ball touches the hand, even if it was accidental = no goal.

    Don't be like those plastic Citeh fans that wish that rule had been in effect for CL QF v. Spuds.
     
  17. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Its funny they brought it in to help City after last year, and if it had helped City v Tottenham they would talking about how its the best change to the system.

    Also, that Adrian assist for the Souths goal.Good grief that is Almunia levels.
     
  18. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because the implementation sucks, and because it’s being used to essentially legislate rather than help regulate.

    There’s nothing wrong with using technology to improve the application of the rules.

    But now we’re using it to say balls that happen to touch a player’s arm is handling, or 1 millimeter offside is offside when it wasn’t flagged up initially. What happened to the idea of a ‘clear and obvious error’?
     
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  19. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By rule, it wasn’t a handball.

    Edit: Is this supposed ‘rule change’ alluded to above real? Is any ball that hits arm a handball now? Jesus Christ it’s even worse than I thought.
     
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  20. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How? Would you like a referee to interpret that a ball that was clearly handled in the penalty area, even with the help of VAR, according to him wasn't handled at all?

    To me the zero-tolerance aspect takes the guessing out of it. A referee doesn't have to interpret anything here: the ball is touched by a hand in the area, it's not a goal, period.
     
  21. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If a ball hits an arm it should be handball? Fvck me that will be a nightmare.

    I get the idea that removing subjectivity could be beneficial, but that’s not the way to do it. If an advantage is gained because it was handled then sure, but it’s just way too broad to say it’s handball if it touches an arm.
     
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  22. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also I’ve tried to find the actual language of the rule change and none of it says to me that this was the correct call, let alone that it would make one lick of sense.
     
  23. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #21923 ArsenalJake, Aug 17, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2019
    Give me a break. There is absolutely nothing black and white about handball, and there is absolutely nothing black and white about VAR.

    Go get a Sharpie and draw a line on your body where your hand ends and your body begins.

    Go ahead. I'll wait.

    Now show me a football thats the same size as that line.

    So what happens when the ball hits the line??

    Technology can't make that call.

    But it doesn't even matter because that's not even what's happening. With VAR, you still have humans looking at this crap on screen and making a judgement. That's even worse than technology, and it's worse than letting the referee decide. And it certainly isn't black and white.

    I'm not saying the above is what happened today, but you're fooling yourself if you think VAR eliminates interpretation.
     
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  24. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn’t know we had ref nerds too :p:D
     
  25. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better one: How many times have Arsenal gotten screwed over by a blatant hand ball that the ref missed?

    And yet, if you're a Citeh fan, that grey area handball cost them a place in the CL SF.

    Would much rather have a zero-tolerance handball rule rather than once that's subject to a ref's call.
     

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