Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Chance that Leipzig might make it into it as well.
     
  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just the way Europa works. We should be able to deal with those stronger teams coming in. And still have a chance of progressing… Maybe even winning?! :D
     
  3. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Leipzig isn't very good.
     
  4. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    They're getting better as the season progressed.
     
  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Eh. They did lose 4-0 last weekend.

    They're not a team that I would expect to compete deep into the Europa League. This could all be moot though because they've still got a decent chance to qualify for the Champions League knockouts.
     
  6. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2nd place in Bundesliga, 6pts back... not too shabby. We'd be pretty damn thrilled to be in that position in England.
     
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  7. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll disagree here. It's all about the human nature of refs.

    Some refs like a Collina will give a player a talking to and/or a warning, "Next time, you're in the book." and goes through with it. Some refs are too quick with the book, others will allow legal assault before they finally book a player.

    You can have 4 yellow cards before a red and the same problem, if not worse, will apply.

    I hate to say it but I think refs should have next to zero tolerance when it comes to fouls that merit a yellow card. That way, players will get it in their heads that they cannot fly into challenges and try to explain it away or excuse it after the fact. The onus should be on the players and coaches to rein themselves in rather than the refs. If they complain that the refs are too quick with the book? Tough, deal with it; don't think you/your player can get stuck in and not have consequences.
     
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  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I really hate the fact cl teams come into the Europa

    Makes a mockery of the tor ament
     
  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    +3 goal difference in 14 matches, and only 10 points from 8 away matches. The Bundesliga is pretty shit outside of Bayern this season. The league coefficient is 9th in Europe so far this year, behind such luminaries as Cyprus and Austria.
     
  10. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As I was thinking about it today, I mused that maybe this mechanism exists, at least partly, to make the UCL groups more competitive? Incentivises the bottom 2 teams, even if they can't mathematically finish in top-2, to not just give up, to keep fighting for 3rd place.
     
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  11. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My theory is that 'three strikes and you're out' is easier to digest than 'two strikes and you're out'
     
  12. pookspur

    pookspur Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Indiana
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    like everything in football, it's about money. it's to keep more big clubs playing Europe matches deeper into the Spring.

    one of the major problems of opening up the CL to so many non-champions 20-some year back was the drain on quality* in the UEFA Cup and Cup-Winners Cup. The latter couldn't be saved, and the former might not have been either, without the boost from CL dropouts. and to be fair, there's something to be said for it. you can get some really nice ties as you get deeper into the Europa - ties that wouldn't be there if those clubs were simply out of Europe come December.

    I loathe the backdoor entry on principle; but if i'm honest, it's provided for more than a few cup ties that I've really enjoyed over the years. And that - generating (maintaining?) interest - is the most plausible explanation for the 'escape route' into the Europa. At least to my mind, anyway.


    *and by 'quality', I really mean 'big revenue generating western clubs', which only loosely correlates to the literal meaning of the word.
     
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  13. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone else used to get the "Soccer on TV" emails from SoccerAmerica.com?

    I've been using that for a few years, to keep track of footy on TV... not just Arsenal matches. Before that I used something similar from Oliver Tse I believe.

    Apparently a few weeks ago they stopped offering that as a free service. :(

    Wondering if anyone uses or knows of any other similar email service? The key word there is "email".

    TIA!
     
  14. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    A return to a champions only European Cup two leg all knockout contest would be a thing of beauty. Cup winners in the Cup Winners Cup and have the runners up/some third place teams play in a comp.
     
  15. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @DaPrince84 embiid looks even better this season
    His footwork in the post has gotten better.... not quite Hakeem yet but he is moving
    Let’s see if he stays healthy
     
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  16. Blueallthru

    Blueallthru Member+

    Chelsea
    United States
    May 15, 2012
    The Interwebz
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Fotmob is a free app I use. It doesn't email me when they're on TV, but it tells me which station any match is on. It's easily the most useful tool I have currently.
     
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  17. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    He’s a wizards fan lol
     
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  18. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    WeAllFromAfrica

    Wizards fan but number one Embiid stan
     
  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I recommend Fotmob to every soccer fan I know. It's fantastic.
     
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  20. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Nah that’s me
     
  21. Gunning4Chelsea

    Gunning4Chelsea Member+

    Aug 2, 2005
    chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know
     
  22. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I have no doubt he will be the best player in the NBA if he stays healthy. He clearly has the work ethic.

    Unfortunately Brian Colangelo is one of the worst GMs in the NBA and it may undermine the Sixers.
     
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  23. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    If I had my way the Champions League would only allow the teams that won the league and domestic cup to enter, or if the same team won both then have the runners up enter.

    And for a secondary European league everyone from 2nd to 4th can enter, random draw knock out tournament.

    Would never happen but thats what I'd love to see. I love how out my way the leagues locally have a tournament for champions only.
     
  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah but tv money is so huge this way with the amount of games

    I would prefer it like that with a cup winners cup too but those days are gone

    And @DaPrince84 fock knows what he was doing with that booker trade
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It can never happen because UEFA CL is a competitor league to the domestic leagues

    So they want as many games as possible for rev.
     

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