I don't recall Ventura saying "I don't call up Giovinco because MLS is shit". If anything, he might have said something like "players choosing to play for distant, lesser leagues are less likely to be called up because they will get used to a different style of play than ours" (referring to Pellé, Giovinco and maybe others that I don't remember), which is reasonable and doesn't however shut the door completely for exceptions (if justified - which apparently is not the case).
Let me ask you...When the announcer says " last dummy " , is he referring to the move Giovinco made? Or to the defender? I think it applies better to the defender , don't you ?
I think Antonio Conte initially said , suggested or at least implied it and Ventura continued on with the same thinking. Giovinco: “Conte non mi ha convocato solo perché gioco in MLS Conte tace sulla bocciatura di Pirlo e Giovinco, ma deve essere ... I personally would have taken him down and risk a yellow or red. Too bad defenders don't do much of that anymore!
Zaza is in pretty good form right now, i'd like to see him back on the team but Ventura is blind so that'll never happen along with Balotelli.
Forgetting about the current topic, is Roberto Inglese the answer to Italy’s goalscoring problema? I mean a Carpi an Chievo forward is our go to reserve option? TFC vs. Carpi???? Mamma mia allora Andrea Carnevale dove lo metti?
Inglese was only called up as a backup target man because of Belotti's injury. Has Giovinco not only got better but also taller and stronger so as to play as a target man? Because otherwise the Inglese argument is nor here nor there.
No but Inglese from mighty Chievo and Carpi? These are the clubs the Italian national team is looking to for their forward line? We once had Milan, Juventus , Roma , Inter and even Fiorentina as clubs to align our forwards with and now we go to those clubs and this is what we are reduced to win a World Cup? Forget about Giovinco but that is pretty sad I'd say.
I commented on this some posts ago. Nowadays, top clubs resort to foreign talent in order to compete. It's hard to find more than 3-4 Italian starters in the top 5 teams. Therefore it is only natural that many NT players come from midtable teams. (Inglese is owned by Napoli, by the way)
Yeah but at 25, World Cup age he never played for Napoli. As I pointed out the problem with Serie A is there is too many foreigners . At least when trying to select a national team. I think it’s sad. Maybe other country’s have the same problem but I only care about Italy.
England definitely have had the same problem for much longer And it shows from their international results...
The last two people that Giovinco ran past were just too slow. Poor reaction time. Sort of par for the course for MLS defenders; slow and shitty. You keep saying the league doesn't matter, while denying it's lower quality. You have to be thinking that it's not lower quality to say the first sentence. Sure he looks better against lower quality opposition, even if you don't believe the opposition is lower quality. It just is. I always play and score goals against lower quality players. Jovinko is doing the same. It's really not that hard to figure out Falvo. I think that's enough for me on this topic. Forza Jovinko.
How about the other point you never touched upon? How do you explain come Simon Elliott of New Zealand being voted man of match against Italy in June 2010 and who eliminated the WC champion single handedly? He was cut from my 5th division Serie D team in February and was without a club and then he best player on the field June? Seems kind of illogical doesn't it? By your reasoning, he shouldn't even be on the same field with these guys.... GK 12 Federico Marchetti RB 19 Gianluca Zambrotta CB 5 Fabio Cannavaro (c) CB 4 Giorgio Chiellini LB 3 Domenico Criscito RM 7 Simone Pepe Substituted off 46' CM 6 Daniele De Rossi CM 22 Riccardo Montolivo LM 15 Claudio Marchisio Substituted off 61' SS 9 Vincenzo Iaquinta CF 11 Alberto Gilardino Substituted off 46' Substitutions: MF 16 Mauro Camoranesi Substituted in 46' FW 10 Antonio Di Natale Substituted in 46' FW 20 Giampaolo Pazzini Substituted in 61'
Man, do you reach! I'm supposed to guess how you're going to try and connect random unrelated points now? Maybe you can tell me in advance what other random, non related points can you come up with to prove something that not a single person is following you on? Give it up Falvo. It's a failed narrative you're holding onto. Next up, the price of tea in China...Pelle...and Silvio Pioli are somehow related to this too. LOL.
Scusa Pauly, ma perché non puoi rispondere alla mia domanda? Io ti ho dato un esempio ed è la verità dei fatti! Nessuno dice che questo Giovinco è meglio degli altri. Sto dicendo solamente che se tutti questi altri scartati possono giocare, sono sicuro che anche lui c’è la può fare e basta. Non capisco il discorso oppure il problema. Se uno è capace e può giocare , lo fa in qualsiasi livello. Queste sono cose pratiche che succedono ad ogni luogo del mondo ed anche in ogni campo di calcio.
Why are you writing in Italian? I think most everyone here can understand, no? You are coming up with random unrelated examples that only serve to confirm your own bias and set-in-stone belief about MLS, when in reality they're totally unrelated. Falvo, unless you like writing stuff that doesn't compute, here's an easy way to end this ridiculous back and forth. Say this: "Pirlo is a piece of shit and I think he sucks and is a druggie!" then "Giovinco is the greatest thing since sliced bread!" Cmon already. No one is following. I'm wasting my time, and I think you're a nice guy but...you know...you're too invested in MLS. Sure, Giovinco can play, like you say, but he's not going to make much difference, so why all the tears over him not being called?
Because I'm only addressing you! I gave examples and truths and backed them up with facts. Just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean they aren't true. Pirlo is a druggie. Look at him. How would you like to run into him him in a dark alley in NYC? Mamma mia! Never stated anything of the sort. Dude, you are the one who is going on but is it really that big of a deal? Why do you care so much? Maybe not and never said he would but if they can pick Pinco pallino, I'm sure he can be picked too.
Meh, i can see both sides of the argument. Giovinco didn't play terribly in Italy, he did pretty good at Parma and then started riding the bench at Juve. Of course he's going to shine in MLS but to say he has little skill and is undeserving of a NT call up is absurd. We have to look at some facts though, he's 30 and has some tough competition for a spot on the team, he's super sub material at best.
Never thought he would be a star. Far from it. Maybe provide a spark if they needed one but that is about it. At this point though, they should look to the Under 20's for their forwards. I like this guy Patrick Cutrone scoring 4 goals in 4 games. He may very well be called up in June. If they qualify.
Please guys enough with Giovinco and Balotelli, ok??? Whether they should be called up or not has been discussed way too much. I think it is clear Ventura is not calling up any of them. I am kind of happy honestly because Balotelli I can never trust him to play with the team especially in big matches, and Giovinco isn't good enough. Enough said. However the player that does really need a call up soon is Berardi.