On the bench: Opstelling VVV-Venlo! #vvvalm pic.twitter.com/wiVhNVgTLd— VVV-Venlo (@VVVVenlo) April 7, 2017
That's an aggressive assumption. Hasn't he been the first sub off the bench tbe past few games prior? Strong performance at the WC would be great though assuming he makes it. A lot of strong competition in midfield with the U20's. It will be interesting how the staff rates him relative to his peers.
Interesting in the same way it's interesting for me to blindfold myself, toss a dart and see where It lands. That's the faith I have in the staff to select players.
You only look at the matchminutes situation. We donot know what is happening in developing terms during training. How he's progressing there. One might think Real Madrid has a top academy. Bergdølmo, now coach of Ullensaker Kisa, but before at the Norwegian club of Ødegaard, gives them a kick in the nuts in an interview with the Spanish news paper AS: The current coach of the Norwegian Ullensaker Kisa is pleased that the Norwegian super talent in January moved to Heerenveen. "At Real Madrid Castilla he has developed, but at Heerenveen he really has learned what it means to be a professional footballer. I think he mostly done much weight training at Real Madrid. " Bergdølmo, who played around 66 Eredivisie matches played between 2000 and 2003, sees his compatriot in Friesland making progress. "Heerenveen is the only club where he really learned something." And GertJan Verbeek, former coach of Mike Bradley said in a Dutch soccer programm about Ødegaard that one can see he has been stagnant for two years for not playing at an adequat level. So how are you sure Zelalem is to be worried about? He's in good hands, ours!
Looks like he might be on the move per http://britishtide.ml "The British Tide has learned that Arsenal midfielder Gedion Zelalem has interrupted his loan move at VVV Venlo to open talks with Mark Warburton in Nottingham over a potential move to the club this summer. It is understood that Zelalem is keen to join Warburton’s side as he seeks to kickstart his professional career." Could be a solid move if he is to get minutes, but unclear if it is for a loan or a permanent switch
I salivate at the thought of a permanent move. A full pre-season and an opportunity to prove influential at the Championship level. It would indeed be time to put up.
Not a good destination. The club is a complete mess with an owner who makes Trump seem balanced and in control of his impulses. There is also the little matter of the size of the squad: not counting players out on loan, there are 32 players, including 4 - yes, four - goalkeepers which, ahem, "suggests" an untargeted approach to player recruitment. Most of that squad is under contract beyond the summer, so there's going to be a lot of competition for places. That isn't a problem, unless you have 8 or 9 guys for 3 places when you wind up with an unsettled dressing room with 2-3 players who have no chance of playing and are just seeing out their contracts and start causing trouble. He could wind up like Ariybi, who was bought for 500k at the end of the transfer window. He hasn't even made the bench once.
I donot get it. This is a league that: 1. is far more physical and fast paced than the Dutch Jupiler League. 2. isnot very technical in play 3. isnot a league with development of players reputation How is that going to improve his chances? Zelalem is physically already lacking in the Dutch Jup league and is supposed to get into the first team in the Championship club with no hitch? He also hasnot accomodated his speed of decision making in combination with his technical abilities to the Jup league. When he applies his current speed of decision making in the Championship, he will be flattened by the opponent before he even realizes what happened. He still has an awful lot to learn, so the Championship is the place to be to learn it plus trying to survive? Trying to get a picture of how that looks like.
Ok yes, but on a positive note: it would be with a manager who already has worked with him. That's a good thing. It's at a level that if he can't hack it at then he's just a youth prospect that can't hack it. That's a good thing. Sometimes you have to make an ugly move.
The Championship is like quicksand. Once you enter there, because of the salaries paid, you'll never leave. None of our guys who got into a Ch'ship team moved up from there, in recent memory. Yedlin is a different case because he was with an EPL team that went down. But Fulham, Forest, Birmingham, etc. are going to stay there for a long time yet. The best that can be said is that at least if you don't move, you stop sinking.
???? Yedlin moved to Newcastle in the Championship. Are you saying it doesn't count because they used to be in the PL? So were many other teams.
Newcastle was relegated but kept a roster good enough to return right away. That wasn't the case with other clubs. Sunderland is about to go down and right now they don't have a squad to be back next season.
this^^^ also Jovan Kirovski/Steve Bruce is the cautionary tale. But if Warburton thinks enough of GZ to drag him to his new club, it's worth the try. If a Dutch club wanted him permanently, that would be great, or if Arsenal really had a plan for him. But the idea that his Gers coach thinks enough of him to try to snag him is not bad. @feyenoordsoccerfan rep for bringing up JOB's old teamie Bergdolmo! I miss watching JOB and Chivu and van der Vaart and Maxwell and van der Meyde and De Cler and... sniff, sniff...
So Gedion has a longer j-curve than most players. That's not to say he'll make it. That's just to say most supremely technical footballers need years of seasoning. Even the most ridiculous world class ones. Furthermore, being an Arsenal first-teamer kinda means at this point that you just vaguely meet Grampa Aresene's ideal aesthetic. Which is not indicative of anything but a downward trajectory of relevance. Gedion Zelalem is a special talent. Given. He needs a second class place to show his class. And five more years. And maybe a sixth. And f*** yeah I got patience for this kid.
What trajectory? Or, perhaps, is the trajectory upward or just sideways/horizontal? I can't see that his situation has improved at all.
If he decides to leave Arsenal for the Championship, much less a club as dysfunctional as Forest, I'm ready to write him off as an elite prospect. Ere, Eerste, BL, 2 Bl, Segunda Liga, Serie B, Primeira - if he's looking for playing time, there are plenty of options on the continent where he would be a better fit and be more likely to succeed and turn heads.