Gedion and Green seem very similar in that the only clubs they have been a part of are super clubs; Arsenal and Munich. Neither one seem to know how to or like to fight for mins because they never had too. They were never going to make the first team with either of those clubs with meaningful mins in games that matter. It seems like on loans it didn't matter because in a couple of months they wouldn't be there anymore anyway. Green seems to be struggling because he no longer has that safety net. Gedion seems like it doesn't matter because at the end of the day he is still a Gunner. Both have a good upside they just need to get over that hump.