Veni, Vidi, Vici: Gedion Zelalem at VVV

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  1. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Country:
    United States
    Gedion and Green seem very similar in that the only clubs they have been a part of are super clubs; Arsenal and Munich. Neither one seem to know how to or like to fight for mins because they never had too. They were never going to make the first team with either of those clubs with meaningful mins in games that matter. It seems like on loans it didn't matter because in a couple of months they wouldn't be there anymore anyway. Green seems to be struggling because he no longer has that safety net. Gedion seems like it doesn't matter because at the end of the day he is still a Gunner. Both have a good upside they just need to get over that hump.
     
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  2. wellno

    wellno Member

    Jul 31, 2016
    >super club

    >Arsenal

    >sixth in the league

    (I get where you're coming from but for me the super club bracket is much smaller than the big club bracket and Arsenal are in the latter)
     
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  3. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Country:
    United States
    On the bench:
     
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  4. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Yawn...... another game, another bench. 12 players on the bench, that's crazy. Promotion is clinched..
     
  5. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Country:
    United States
    Oh well. I imagine release for the U-20 WC won't be a problem.
     
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  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Country:
    United States
    I am not sure he starts for that U-20 team, to be honest.
     
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  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    See? Prophetic.

    Bungadiri needs to start considering my suggestions.
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Well, kind of ignores the Gers days, but I do think that GZ has to find a way to make himself more useful to whatever club takes him.
     
  9. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    ouch... and that is also due to the quality of the existing U20 midfield...but darn is that a tough pill to swallow given the super high expectations we have for GZ.
     
  10. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Country:
    United States
    This is one of the issues of projecting talent/prospects. Never know what's between the ears. That's what sets Pulisic apart from so many, his mental strength and ambition is light years ahead of others as well as his reading of the game.

    For all their potential, neither Gedioff or Green seem to have the "it" factor. Still time to change that but tick tock.
     
  11. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    booo for quoting your own posts.. :)
     
  12. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    tied 0-0, 62' minute. VVV up a man. no subs yet.
     
  13. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    FT tied 0-0. One sub, not GZ. VVV played with a man up since 60', and has just been knocking the ball around. Probably 85% possession. This is GZ's wheelhouse, but not to be today. They are celebrating with the fans, my guess is they clinched promotion last week and the league this week. (waiting to see if Gedion is "passionately celebrating" with his teammates as they breakout the champagne on the field.)

    Why did i just watch this game..i'll never get that 90 minutes of my life back.
     
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  14. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Country:
    Ireland Republic
    Or any other team for that matter :speechless:
     
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  15. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Country:
    United States

    Double boo for having to encounter that particular form of gloating from him across multiple threads in just the past few minutes.
     
  16. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I get the frustration, but don't you guys think there is a little bit of over reacting going on in here? I watched him play 15 mins last week and looked like a talented player who struggled finishing. I hope I'm not wrong but don't see how he doesn't start for u20s. He's by far the best possession oriented player we have. We play with 3 in the midfield, have a strong defense and wing players. It seems like a possession oriented #8 is exactly what we need.
     
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  17. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    overreacting is what we do.
     
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  18. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I prefer a "steady as she goes" approach. The game by game swings are too much for me.

    Here's Gedi 11 months ago... seems like he can still turn the corner and be a serviceable player.

     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Thing is, we were expecting more than "serviceable."

    And by 20, you're already expected to know how to mesh with the other players in your team.
     
  20. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I meant serviceable at on a team in a top 4 league and the USMNT. Have we ever had a 20 yo Central mid playing at a high level? Bradley in the eridivisie is the best. Jones maybe a few Bundesliga games. O'Brien was 21 when loaned out and Reyna was like 22.
     
  21. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
  22. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Country:
    United States
    Couldn't find a stream, I'm guessing no one else had any lucky either.
     
  23. blackstar22

    blackstar22 Member

    Jul 17, 2012
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Its finally his time to shine
     
  24. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    Today's opponent, breakout hip hop artist Jong Ajax.
     
  25. scholes181818

    scholes181818 Member

    Dec 1, 2003
    Kansas City, MO, USA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Country:
    United States
    And VVV is already down 3-0 in the 25th...
     

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