Veni, Vidi, Vici: Gedion Zelalem at VVV

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  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It was a sequence where GZ went Dinho on two defenders marking him. Then send in the cross, but as always, his mates were not paying attention to what he was trying to do.

    No wonder he barely cares when they score.
     
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  2. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    2) ok, now the bad part. 97'. gets the ball 100% all alone 1:1 in the box but slows up, tries to get cute and place it. keeper easily saves but rebound comes back, still almost all alone and tries to chip the keeper. scuffs it and easily goes right to the goalie.

    he has to do better there.. it all went wrong, and after such a great play moments before.. uggh.
     
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  3. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    He's going to be remembered for that last play, sadly.
     
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  4. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    yep, and rightfully so. bummer.
     
  5. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    sounds like they clinched promotion, right?
     
  6. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Yes, Caambur is 13 points behind with 3 games left. Venlo will be in the Ered next season, without GZ.
     
  7. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I only caught the last 15 mins. Mildly impressed and mildly concerned.

    The good - kept the ball, made simple but nice passes, and solid play in corner at the end.

    The bad - missed opportunities on goal. He has always seemed quiet and some might even say aloof, but his body language was the worst I can remember.

    Hopefully, he can get with our u20s and have some.
     
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  8. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    It's like a bad marriage, when the wife has stopped caring what you say, and you've stopped caring about her not caring. I'll be glad when he's out of there.
     
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  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    It was same at Gers. His shooting sucks and it tends to overshadow all the good. Someone should take him to a handball court and make him hammer a waterlogged ball exactly sixtysix quintjillion times until he become a lithe Bobby Wood with grace.
     
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  10. From the last few posts I get the impression that Zelalem has no good rapport with his team mates. Also read that posters see an uninterested attitude towards the other players. If that is the same in training, then players will have the feeling he doesnot want to be there, so they will treat him as if he's not there. Not good. For GZ it is important to show he's eager to fit in. It's not like they were waiting for him to achieve their goal. How he's perceived by other Eredivisie clubs in his attitude makes or brakes opportunities for a loan on a higher ranking club. You are selling yourself, so make clear you're very eager to learn and contribute. So even if you are misunderstood and sometimes ignored by the other players, donot show displeasure or disappointment, but just try again and show you're no disconcerted by mishap.
     
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  11. Bergkamp did it that way, even when he was already a star at Arsenal! Day in, day out!
     
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  12. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    On My Squatty Potty
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Country:
    United States
    Sounds like he's more Gedioff than Gedion.
     
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  13. You naughty ...:p
     
  14. americanfutbolista10

    Jan 19, 2017
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Watched the whole game live and was wowed by Zelalem's skill on the flank. His dribbling and passing were impressive as well. Sad that he hasn't improved his ability to score; probably the biggest thing keeping him from flourishing in a top league. But please put a link on here for the video of the dribble if you find it because I want to watch it again.
     
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  15. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder

    Live... as in in-person? Mega reps to you sir.
     
  16. Eighteen Alpha

    Eighteen Alpha Member+

    Aug 17, 2016
    Club:
    Stoke City FC
    Not at all. I'm not sure where you got that - I probably failed to express myself well.

    He's not elite. But he has elite potential based on his skills and vision. IMO, what is holding him back is attitude and an inability to find a situation where he can thrive. Again, my opinion, I don't think that is the championship.
     
  17. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    None of GZ's highlights made it. The free kick and the two missed shots are shown.

     
  18. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    On the bench, with 11 other benchwarmers, A few days after clinching promotion. Sheesh


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  19. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    tied 0-0, didn't get off the bench. Ok, let's do the tracker here and draw whatever conclusions we want...but this has not been a good loan at all... honestly can't see one benefit to this loan compared to staying at Arsenal reserves.

    13 games named to the squad:
    - 0 starts
    - 8 appearances
    - 171 total minutes

    His minutes on the field in his 8 appearances:
    22, 14, 18, 29, 14, 34, 25, 15

    For comparison: he was in the squad for 8 Reserve games this season, all 8 starts, 691 minutes.

    He turned 20 in January of this year. He'll come due, I'm confident of it, was just not a good loan.
     
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  20. KicksNgiggles

    KicksNgiggles Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    Probably South of you
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Country:
    United States
    I guess my question at this point is if he is better off having been on this bad loan or would it have been more beneficial to stay at Arsenal on the reserve squad?
     
  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Still, could be worse. Look at Rubin.
     
  22. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Country:
    United States
    Hopefully a humbling, learning experience for him.
     
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  23. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Has never struck me as one who needs humbling. Have I missed something?
     
  24. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    He was referring to the ups/downs of pro sports, rather than ego.
     
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  25. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Or could be better....
     

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