Va-Va Voom, speeding into Old Trafford : the Anthony Martial thread

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  1. Ashur

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    We can say pretty unequivocally that last season's team was not as good as this one, yet he managed to shine. So the "poor team" excuse really can't fly. He's just not having the best of seasons so far and that is ok, especially if he can turn it on and finish strong.
    Regardless of the reasons, be it second year syndrome, or his family issues or simply adjusting to a new manager, with different ways, he's still young and there is little doubt he'll come good. As mentioned, it would be very timely for United if he can reach a rich vein of form.
    But there is no doubt that an in form Martial can change the team for the better: always maintained that he is needed and nothing has changed there.
     
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    United needed Anthony to step and he did just that today. No, it wasn't an epic performance but it was a solid first step toward recovering a shadow of his prior form for us. More to come?
     
  5. Teso Dos Bichos

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    We shall see what position and role Mourinho has for him in future as it will impact heavily on our summer dealings.
     
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  6. Ashur

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    #481 Ashur, Apr 23, 2017
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    Looking forward to sign play with Rashford now. Rashford paired with Lingard has showed some promise. If he can have the same kind of understanding with Martial, it could be very intriguing.
    Most important point is for Jose to play so he can a pretty definite idea whether he feels he will work for him, or not.
     
  7. SyedZada

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    Still need a RW to relieve the marking on him.
     
  8. johno

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    If the plan is to play him through the middle flanked by Rashford and another then maybe not. I don't think Martial is the answer to our CF issues full time, but he can be a change of pace.

    Just thinking on paper. It would be an elegant solution if the dribbler we find plays both flanks or on the left.
     
  9. SyedZada

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    Felipe Anderson :D, having a RW outlet would stop teams doubling tripling on Martial on the wing.
     
  10. johno

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    I like him, I'm worried that he doesn't score at a decent rate to warrant attention. We have enough trouble shooting without replacing Mata/Mkhi with a guy who doesn't score. If we do, he has to be devastating on the ball.
     
  11. SyedZada

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    No wingers we can get does score at a rate which you would call decent. He does double figures in goals and assists every year.
     
  12. cr7torossi

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    Martial averages slightly above 0.5 g+a / 90.

    All 3 of your frontline attackers need to be 0.6 or higher and if you have a clearly defined #9, he needs to be closer to 1

    Pogba (with better luck) and Herrera have elite productivity numbers for their positions.
     
  13. JamesA

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    Personally, I just don't think Martial will ever be intense enough long term for Mou.
     
  14. benni...

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    Federico Bernardeshi...
     
  15. SyedZada

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    He scored 2 goals in the league last season, 6 overall. First season in double figures. Anderson have better numbers than him and just a year older.
    Also, most of his goals have come from central location, do not want another player better in the center.
    If you look at passing percentages, Anderson has a better passing percentage and more successful take ons, almost double.
     
  16. benni...

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    Felipe Anderson only has 3 goals this year.

    Federico has 77% to FA's 75%

    Have you watched him play?
     
  17. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Did you watch that penalty..? :eek:
     
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  18. benni...

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    I don't follow
     
  19. Teso Dos Bichos

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    Fiorentina were 1-2 down and he tried to chip a penalty and got it horribly wrong. He was promptly hooked and Fiorentina scored four consecutive goals
     
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  20. benni...

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    I tuned in right after but never saw a replay.

    They whistled him and he begged for forgiveness from fans. Shit happens though. For me he's top 3 options for the RW. He has shown that he provides exactly what we're asking for with a little more polish than most dribblers can can aquire
     
  21. johno

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    I didn't realize that Felipe Anderson has been deployed as a wingback occasionally this season. That puts his goal tally in a better light. If he has the work rate to play wingback, Mourinho would love him. I don't like that he completed only half or so of his dribbling attempts, but I do like that he is aggressive. He has taken on a stupid number of players this season. We need that.
     
  22. benni...

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    I've been on the fence with him. But all reports say he won't cost more than 40 mil pounds.
     
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  23. jeff070

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    Have we even been linked with Felipe since Mou took over? Chelsea has more interest than we do after Conte and Mou arrived.
     
  24. benni...

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    Another note is we need end product. Certified.
     
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  25. johno

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    Agreed, that's why I think a central striker who leads the line well and can score goals that Rashford and Martial can't, will be helpful. Most of the pace merchant forwards are erratic finishers.
     

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