USWNT sues USSF 2019 version

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by lil_one, Mar 8, 2019.

  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    On it's face, sure. But in way that the #EqualPay thing is used, not in the least.

    I'm still waiting for a single reporter to put one of the WNT players on record on if they'd be willing to sign the MNTPA CBA with USSF. It's a simple yes/no question. Right?
     
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  2. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Everyone knows the answer would be no, even if they talked around that answer.
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Correct. They would not agree to the Soccer Australia thing, either.

    So, if they don't want the "exact same deal" then the onus is on them to define what they believe "equal" or "equal pay" to mean.

    And you'll notice they're calling out the MNT players and not the NWSL players.
     
  4. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Why call out players they block from joining their union?
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Exactly. Calling out the MNTPA players is cherrypicking.

    It also ignores the block of players that they negotiated a "most favored nation clause" over without allowing them a seat at the bargaining table.

    It's all very Animal Farm. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
     
  6. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it's not a very relevant question since the mens' CBA is years old and has lapsed.

    Plus, to what extent is the perks and bonus disparity set forth in the mens' CBA?

    I'm guessing the former isn't and the latter might be but not through the World Cup level. Is the CBA available anywhere for review?
     
  7. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    No. Too many people on the interwebs these days who might read it and make them look bad
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The other issue with "equality" is that the WNTPA is far more restrictive with regards to membership and the ability to vote whereas the MNTPA is "if you've ever played you're welcome to join"

    https://ussoccerplayers.com/usnstpa-faq/
    This leads to weird pressure with the WNT which helps to get Tom Sermanni fired when he was a couple friendly cycles from greatly expanding the number of players with enough caps to join the union and dilute the voting power - and changing the dynamic of what the WNTPA deems important in a CBA. When 90-95% of the members of the WNTPA go to the World Cup, the WNTPA is going to want guarantees that limit the player pool and concentrate opportunities and benefits to the anointed players. If you greatly expand the player pool, the WNTPA might very well look for higher appearance fees as most players are less certain of going to the World Cup/Olympics and are going to be more interested in cashing in on an appearance by appearance basis.

    @Beau Dure do you have the membership requirements? I can't find the current CBA
     
  9. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United FC
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Wow, what a blindside. This should have resulted in the USMNT agreeing to play for per diem, and then campaigning for equal pay for both teams. NT duty doesn't increase anyone's income enough to put up with this.
     

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