USSF Development Academy 2.0

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Real Corona, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. TxEx

    TxEx Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur, Crystal Palace, FC Dallas
    Aug 19, 2016
    DFW
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    I wish that USSF would organize a type of All-Star event for the U-15s on up in Europe every year. Bet a ton of teams would be willing to host such a thing so they get first hand look at who's up and coming. Have them play against some of the local clubs at their age level to gauge their quality and allow our best in the MLS and non-MLS DA to be showcased for scouts all across Europe. Another big tournament like the Nike Friendlies could really help those who aren't stars on our YNTs.
     
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  2. I think you nailed it. A university cannot claim compensation from a company benefitting from a top graduate either. The whole compensation thing was created just for academies being a part of an club's internal organization. These academies donot charge a fee. The academies of Feyenoord, PSV and Ajax cost the clubs from around 9 up to 12 million a year. But no one pays for these costs in the form of a fee like those in the USA.
    The difference is that the club academies in Europe arenot ment to make money, but to prepare talents for their first team. The purpose of the "Pay to Play" academies in the USA is to make money by charging fees.
     
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  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I keep seeing this but most MLS academies do not charge. FC Dallas teams that aren't academies may charge but even then every team has scholarship spots for poorer kids who may pay 1/2 or nothing at all.
     
  4. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    AFAICT, MLS teams do get their solidarity and training comp. For instance, when Salcedo left RSL they were compensated a substantial amount. They are much more plugged in to the transfer market of course. Also, MLS refused to pay compensation for a Jamaican player. That might have changed now.
     
  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #6105 Clint Eastwood, Jul 30, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2017
    Another FCD squad going for a national title today in Frisco. This one is the USYS national championships in the U17 division

    And its gonna be a great game between FCD and Baltimore Celtic.
    http://championships.usyouthsoccer...._2017_us_youth_soccer_national_championships/

    This is the FCD "Premier" team, which is one step below the development academy squads. I looked at the roster for the event and didn't recognize a single name. Such is the depth at the FCD academy that their non-DA teams gun for national titles. Last year there were a number of the Premier Team players that got NCAA scholarships. I remember that some of the kids in that case had a reason to not want to commit the time required in order to be a DA player. Maybe they had another sport or other commitments, etc.

    In another game in these national championships, a team affiliated with the Crew are gunning for the title in the U19 division. This is the prestigious trophy at this event, which is called the Reese McGuire Cup. At least they're called the Crew and they're from Ohio. Its the Challenger Crew Jrs Gold 98. Maybe a youth affiliate of some sort based in Cleveland.
     
  6. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Looks like we have some MLS squads at the Yuodon Trophy again this year. Looks like the Sounders and Dynamo there. At the website both clubs have teams in the U14 and U16 divisions.

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    Here are their groups in the U16 division:
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  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  8. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just an anecdote I'd like to share:

    In 2016-17, 14 individual Americans played in a top 5 league or the advanced stages of European football. Here they are, sorted by league, minutes, with goals and assists:
    2016-17 (Minutes, Goals, Assists):

    Champions League:
    Christian Pulisic (Dortmund, 599', 1, 3)
    Fabian Johnson (Gladbach, 343', 0, 0)

    Europa League:
    Kenny Saief (Gent, 725', 1, 1)
    Fabian Johnson (Gladbach, 175', 0, 0)

    English Premier League:
    Geoff Cameron (Stoke, 1628', 0, 1)
    Brad Guzan (Boro, 900', 0, 0)
    Lynden Gooch (Sunderland, 362', 0, 0)

    Bundesliga:
    Timothy Chandler (Frankfurt, 2817', 0, 4)
    John Brooks (Hertha, 2115', 2, 1)
    Bobby Wood (Hamburg, 2084', 5, 2)
    Alfredo Morales (Ingolstadt, 1711', 1, 0)
    Christian Pulisic (Dortmund, 1514', 3, 8)
    Fabian Johnson (Gladbach, 1249', 3, 2)
    Terrance Boyd (Darmstadt, 378', 1, 0)
    Aron Johannsson (Bremen, 267', 1, 2)
    Weston McKennie (Schalke, 13', 0, 0)

    Serie A:
    Josh Perez (Fiorentina, 15', 0, 0)

    Of those 14 players, 7 (Johnson, Saief, Chandler, Brooks, Morales, Johannsson and Boyd) were nearly entirely, if not entirely, raised in Europe. The 7 remaining are Guzan, Cameron, Wood, Gooch, Pulisic, McKennie, and Perez. Wood was raised in Hawaii, far from the confines of MLS academies, and moved to Germany very young. Gooch has played for Sunderland since he was 10.

    Of the remaining 5, the ages go as such: 32, 32, 19, 18, 18. That's quite a large gap. I know there's obviously some players in that gap in MLS that could play in Europe, and some players like Yedlin and Horvath are moving into contention, but the point stands nonetheless.
     
  9. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wood was born in Hawaii but moved to Irvine to play youth soccer with the Stikers FYI
     
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  10. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
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  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Seattle has been killing it in the Youdon trophy. Both teams went undefeated in the group stage conceding a grand total of 2 goals.

    At the U14 level they went undefeated in the group stage, even beating Man United. If I'm reading their tweets right it looks like they beat ManU 5-0! Looks like they're playing Sunderland tomorrow in the semifinal.
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    Just as good in the U16 division. They'll play Basel next in the semifinal.
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  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Some additional good results to report on the youth levels.
     
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  13. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    You can see some of the score lines at the bottom of this article. Not a bad article either.

    https://www.soundersfc.com/post/201...ks-defend-title-2017-youdan-trophy-tournament
     
  14. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Check out @LAGalaxyUpdate's Tweet:
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    Toronto, FC Dallas, Atlanta, & LAG will face Mexican clubs.
     
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  15. I'm intrigued by that Rotterdam team. Who are they and where does that Rotterdam come from?
     
  16. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas


    U16s are currently playing the title game. They were up 1-0 late, but Everton have now drawn level. Seems to be going to extra time.
     
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  17. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017
    #6118 ckajMonet, Aug 4, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2017
    The sounders won on penalties.

    The Concacaf U-15 tourney is starting Aug. 13 - http://ussoc.cr/9d77
     
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  18. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
    TFC play in a lot of good tournaments. 3/4 of their academy players also play in several YNT camps a year vs opposition in Central America and Europe. They get tons of immense international experience.

    How they can't produce more players is beyond me. Especially given Toronto is a ridiculous city for young talent.
     
  19. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
     
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  20. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Julian Araujo, an '01 CB formerly of Santa Barbara SC, has joined Barcas new Arizona residency at Casa Grande, per Will Parchman.

    That's a really good pickup.
     
  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Should we make a thread for 2017-18 season?

    I started these seasonal threads for the DA because the actual discussion of the DA was getting bogged down by long development discussions.

    Would seem like that news fits in one of the seasonal threads.
     
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  22. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I'd say yes, go for it.
     
  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas

    Go for it, as the 2017-2018 DA season starts in less than a month.
     
  24. CCSoccerFan

    CCSoccerFan Member

    May 2, 2009

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