USMNT: The Post-Mortem Thread

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  1. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK... so the worst has happened. Now the question is what to do next.

    We're looking at coaching changes, systematic changes, and possibly a change of president. Definitely a new corps of players.

    If we even WANT to go to Qatar in the first place, that is.

    Have at it.
     
  2. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hi. My name is Scott. Some know me as the Hamburgler. I've been an addict for 28 years.
     
  3. Sagz

    Sagz Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Cbus
    If only I was a 16-19 year old prospect....the biggest gain is that there will be a full youth movement. This time there is a chance to actually be part of the picture. I believe this current crop of players ended up being worse than the 98 team....meaning they felt entitled to being on the team for life. I hope I never see bradley (and several others) in a us jersey again.
     
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  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I don't think talent is the problem. What Shaka Hislop and Steve Nicol said in that video in the other thread hits the mark. These guys are mentally weak, but if they're comfortable, they're capable of demolishing teams.
     
  5. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bring back Chris Armas and Kerry Zevagnin to coach. Field nothing but pint-sized worker bee types. Qualify for Qatar at a cantor. Problem solved.
     
  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    [​IMG]

    One of these guys?
     
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  7. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    cantor/canter. whoopsy
     
  8. coachchris

    coachchris Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Attitude is certainly part of the problem. I was reading an article (linked in the USA Men forum PBP) about certain player (Bradley) never really facing competition for his position. That leads to complacency, for sure.

    We need a coach who understands American players, and can make effective use of the ability presented, not one who is always picking players to fill the roles he "needs" for his system. If you could have a 9/10 skill player with an unusual set of skills, or a 7/10 with exactly what you "need", you're not doing yourself or the team any favors by going with the weaker guy.

    We need players who LOVE the game, and want to become the best they can be, not players who LIKE the game, and are comfortable in a secure situation that doesn't push them. Cristiano Ronaldo STILL pushes himself to get better.

    We need to get back to the place where the team was better than the sum of its parts.
     
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  9. Sagz

    Sagz Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Cbus
    It angers me to say this but maybe JK was right. His critiques of US players coming back and not challenging themselves. (they were comfortable with money....not being great and rich). Maybe when he cut Landon it was suppose to send a message....but instead it backfired and the players won the fight by getting him fired. Nah, he was still a major reason we are where we are today.
     
  10. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never really disagreed with Klinsmann that players returning to MLS could, in some instances, be a step backwards. Bradley is a perfect example. Klinsmann seemed pretty rigid in this assessment, however. A guy not playing in Europe wasn't really benefiting much from the experience.

    That said, MLS is a lot better than it used to be, but the regular season isn't exactly a pressure cooker kind of situation. Jobs for big names are secure, and the playoff system and downplaying of the importance of the supporters shield means that teams can have extended shitty stretches during the season, still sneak into the playoffs and, even if they crash out, declare (partial) victory.
     
  11. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So as a NE Ohio sports fan, the Browns have messed up their best chances of winning a game, the Indians are out of the playoffs, USA is missing the World Cup, and the Cavs have traded Kyrie and replaced him with Rose, Wade & Thomas who are closer to playing wheelchair basketball than the finals.

    Am I missing anything? I will be drinking this weekend.
     
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CBJ, baby.
     
  13. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Who are these Brown people you speak of?

    But anyway, no race this weekend, either.

    Am I going to have to shell out for watching City on NBC's paywall BS? Aviva Premiership? I'm now realizing how much NBC has taken over my sports watching, and they went and paywalled a shitload of it.
     
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  14. Iforgotwhat8wasfor

    Jun 28, 2007
    Just don't drink the water. It tastes like burning.
     
  15. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What is "Ralph Wiggum misquote?", Alex?
     
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  16. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    If @hangthadj wrote this word-for-word in the fire Berhalter thread, it'd not be out of place one bit.
    #acceptmediocrity #onelove
     
  17. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kylie (Autocorrect changed that from Kyrie) is a little bitch.
     
  18. Iforgotwhat8wasfor

    Jun 28, 2007
    "No I'm sorry, the correct answer is, 'What is the Cuyahoga River?'"
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    When was the last time that river (or any other river in the US) caught fire?

    How many other rivers nationwide caught fire in the same decade?
     
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  20. TKyle

    TKyle Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Wuuuthington, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, it's been 48 hours.
    And I'm still really p!ssed as hell.
    Is that normal?
     
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  21. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, up here in Cleveland, there's the Monsters (CBJ AHL team).
     
  22. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. 48 years from now, when somebody asks me when I'll get over the US not qualifying, my answer will be "I'll let you know when it happens.".
     
  23. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll add one more to the 24-hours of misery. I live two-blocks from Wrigley and missed much of the game yesterday due to work. I got off the train at Addison and rushed home because it was a 1-run game. Turn on the tv to hear "and that's gone for a grand slam" and just turned it back off.
     
  24. TKyle

    TKyle Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Wuuuthington, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you including in your 24 hours of misery the Tribe crashing out with 3 straight losses after a 2-0 lead over the YankMees?
     
  25. Hamburgler03

    Hamburgler03 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 31, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know it.
     

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