USMNT: The Berhalter Era pt. 1/ World Cup 2022 /Controversy

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  1. HectorM

    HectorM Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Pittsburgh
    I agree with your second point but not with the first.

    Berhalter is not installing some wildly sophisticated, arcane, bizarro system of his own invention, the secrets of which only he can impart over months and years of daily training.

    Instead, he's employing well-known tactics and strategy which any reasonably competent professional soccer player is, or ought to be, familiar with. Sure he has his wrinkles, every coach does, and yes, any decent coach alters the plan based on the relative strengths and weaknesses of the available personnel, but the bottom line is that Berhalter ain't reinventing the wheel here.

    Unfortunately, as noted by others, everyone also knows how to counter his favored method of attack, and Berhalter has failed to figure out how to respond. I said to my wife as we were watching this last game that I felt a sense of deja vu; that team played identically to his Crew teams. Put yellow shirts on them and you wouldn't know the difference.

    The problem with Berhalter is that he's a one trick pony and everybody knows the trick. Except, according to some people, the guys who are supposed to be executing it.

    I do agree 100% about these stupid FIFA money games. They serve no purpose whatsoever, they get guys injured (like Morales, who will be out for weeks for no good reason) and then we have to hear Berhalter whining about how MLS teams are "impinging" on his apparently God-given rights. It's ridiculous.

    Berhalter will never win anything in this job.
     
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  2. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
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    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    “Reports indicated that the player had heart problems.”
    Tragic.
     
  4. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. speedye1

    speedye1 Member+

    Dec 31, 2002
    Are you kidding me, we couldn't find a soccer stadium in the US to play a friendly in. This is a joke......
     
  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    BUT JOE GAETJENS PLAYED IN ST. LOUIS!!!!!!
     
  7. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He did?

    I thought he played in NYC....
     
  8. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I dunno...I pulled a 1950 WC star out of my ass. Half of them were from St. Louis. Figured I had a decent shot.
     
  9. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was from Haiti---Papa Doc killed him...

    He was working in the us and going to school at Columbia and said he was "working on citizenship", which was enough at the time.
     
  10. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I knew the Haiti part.
     
  11. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
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    United States
  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. What a cheap equalizer.

    I’ll take it.
     
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  13. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s because St L is getting an expansion team.
    But I do agree playing in a baseball stadium in 2019 is a joke.
    (Looking at YOU, NYCFCDEFGHIJKL)
     
  14. WhiteHartShame

    WhiteHartShame Member+

    Nov 16, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't that ironic, St. Louis gets an MLS expansion team and suddenly the USMNT has a match there. Thank you SUM for providing the USMNT with a shit stadium, crappy pitch, dead supporters and hollow atmosphere, and an overall horrendous evening of international soccer. This was obviously in the works for months. Well done SUM.
     
  15. Jim Bach

    Jim Bach Member+

    Bradford City Association Football Club
    May 11, 1999
    Land of the Lizard People, or so I'm told
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    I know I'm a little late to this, but listening to the ESPN FC podcast from after the USA-MEX match, it was hilarious to hear Alejandro Moreno make the exact same complaints about Berhalter's coaching that @LaMacchia and I used to make five years ago on the Massive Report Podcast.
     
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  16. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because it belongs here instead of the sheep thread:

    I've seen a few folks mention that kid from Minnesota, Mason Toye or something like that. What are the odds he gets a callup in January?

    And speaking of January, if MLS starts a few weeks earlier next season, does that have any effect on camp cupcake? Seems like it would give players far less time to integrate with their MLS teams when they head back to them.
     
  17. Alneri

    Alneri Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Aug 3, 2018
    I've watched a bit of Minnesota this year and would love to see a call up for Toye. The kid has some raw talent that I think our national team is truly lacking.

    As for the start of next season, I wonder how both of those affect those teams in the CCL as well.
     
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  18. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would imagine this topic has been brought up, but we were discussing the topic this morning on the way to Markus’ soccer game.

    Is Berhalter the least accomplished USMNT coach (prior to appointment) in modern times? I have times where I am still in disbelief he was elevated to this position.
     
  19. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd rank Sampson much lower. He'd never been a professional head coach before being handed the USMNT job.
     
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  20. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Wasn’t Sampson like an interim coach before that ridiculous Copa America run and then he got the job full time.

    Though Sampson had no professional head coach experience, he worked his way up through the US Soccer ranks, was an assistant, and had a few impressive international results before being fully given the keys.

    Gregg Berhalter was fired from a Norwegian club for his style of play being too boring, spent 5 years in Columbus without winning a single trophy, and was handed the keys to the car by his brother after the USSF declined to interview any other candidate.

    Neither Sampson or Berhalter had near the credentials one would expect of US Soccer’s highest position. And it goes to show just how far our federation has to go, at least on the men’s side.
     
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  21. Ch(Elsey)

    Ch(Elsey) Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 2, 2003
    Green, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks. I was too busy to look up Sampson (mister I screwed Harkes because Harkes screwed Wynalda’s wife)’s credentials.
     
  22. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sampson was assistant USMNT coach for two years before being given the job. Before he was an assistant, he was a college head coach. That’s it. The guy was in way over his head, but the program, to say the least, wasn’t going to splash cash on anyone reputable back then. Berhalter’s appointment could be argued to be worse, in that the Fed seemed to barely try to look for anyone else and certainly could have afforded a higher tier coach.
     
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  23. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
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    Columbus Crew
    What players on the USMNT would you like Trapp & Zardes to influence to play for the Crew?

    maybe one of the young RBs ?

    most of the guys we would like are too expensive.
     
  24. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any player in the pool would make us better. So, all of them.
     
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  25. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No one currently playing for the US is coming here... so yeah.
     

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