USMNT Player Pool for the 2022 Cycle

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  1. TX Bill

    TX Bill Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    Sugar Land TX
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll go ahead and throw this here now but this team doesn't qualify for 2022. I know, I know, not quite as bold as my 50/50 prediction for 2018 (people thought I was crazy that I thought we might not actually qualify) but this prediction is a bit easier to make.
     
  2. coachd24

    coachd24 Member

    Feb 22, 2013
    Club:
    RC Lens
    I think these next 6-12 months are some of the most important for the cycle. There is a lot of potential and a lot will be decided across the pond as our young players try and compete at a high level for the first time.
    • Players who have been overseas such as Sargent, Adams, Weah, Miazga, CCV must establish themselves as first team players in addition to Mckennie Brooks, and Pulisic staying at a high level. These 7-8 could/should be the base for 2022.
    • This current U20 group with players like Dest, Gloster, Richards, Mendez, Ledezma, and Soto have a chance to get some first team minutes for their clubs before the end of the year. Is this core also the base for the U23 Olympic team? A lot will be clearer come June 2020 with how their development is going.
    • MLS to Europe? Players like Pomykal, Mihailovic, Long, and possibly Cannon will have a decision to make before August 31 on their futures that could change their development completely.
    • The U17 World Cup is in October and we'll get to see players for 2026 and the next U20 WC. Players like Reyna (Dortmund) and Pynadath (Ajax) have already made the move but for Busio, Pepi, Bello and maybe some others this could be a great chance to secure a European move at 18.
    The Gold Cup showed how much work is left to be done after a lot of promise in the U20 World Cup. For those players under 22 this is a season that could completely change the feeling about the USMNT come next summer as we prepare for qualifying.
     
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  3. gogorath

    gogorath Member

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019

    Players in particular who I think are key to watch;

    • Paxton Pomykal: Two key things: can he add goal production in the form of scoring or assisting to his already strong midfield play and build up skills? And can he translate it to Big 4/5 league play? Having another player join the CP/McKennie/Adams triumvirate would be huge.
    • Josh Sargent: There's not another striker in the pool with Jozy's all-around game except Sargent. He won't be able to bully players off the ball, but otherwise, he's the only guy we have that actually can help in the link up play. His development is key -- otherwise, we are relying on an aging Jozy or a striker who can only help in the box.
    • Gloster: I am not as high on Gloster as others are -- his skill level isn't as high as I'd like. But his athletic upside is there and the LB pool is an utter disaster. There are some folks younger with prospects, but Gloster seems like the only one close enough to make a likely impact
    • Timo Weah: the U20s had a ton of talent, but only two of those guys really showed strong two way skills at positions of need -- Pomykal and Weah. We need two way players -- none of these prospects are good enough offensively to not play defense. But he's the guy in the pool who can upgrade our wingers to goal dangerous if he can develop. Right now, he has the same finishing and final ball issues as Arriola and Morris ... but he's younger and has more upside.
     
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  4. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have updated all the player info (Rosters, Caps, etc) for the May friendlies, and the Gold Cup games, but I have not updated the minutes for the last 8 games. I also included a new column for Provisional Rosters...

    Here is the link to the Google Sheet

    So far GGG had 1 provisional roster, 4 camps, and 12 games since taking over.

    1 Provisonal Roster:
    (1) 40 Man Gold Cup,

    4 Camps:
    (1) Jan Camp, (2) March Friendlies, (3) May Friendlies, (4) Gold Cup Camp

    12 Rosters/Games:
    (1) Panama, (2) Costa Rica, (3) Ecuador, (4) Chile, (5) JAM, (6) VEN, (7) GUY, (8) TRI, (9) PAN, (10) CUW, (11) JAM, (12) MEX

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    Rules for this pool:
    • GGG has/had to list a player on a roster or call them up to a camp
    • All info (Minutes Played, Caps, Camps etc) is accumulated from when GGG took over

    Use the tabs along the bottom of the spread sheet to view player positions.
     
  5. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated list...

    Changes:
    +Added a new category to midfield to distinguish #6, #8, and #10 in the system.
    +Added Trust Rating Scale:
    *****=world class
    ****=elite international class
    ***=international class
    **=top contender class
    *=contender class (worthy of a call-up)
    Note that a player has to have 3* to make it into the Trust category.

    +Add Prospect Rating Scale
    * = Their ceiling.

    Note: Players who are Olympic eligible but already ready to contend for a senior spot will have two ratings.... Trust/Prospect. For instance, Paxton Pomykal has 2 stars for Trust, but is a 5 star Prospect.

    Note Prospects/Not Ready for the Senior team are italicized.

    USMNT 2022

    GOALKEEPERS:
    Trust:

    1. Zack Steffen, 1995(27), Manchester City FC > Fortuna Dusseldorf ***
    2. Ethan Horvath, 1995(26), Club Brugge ***

    Contenders:
    1. Sean Johnson, 1989(33), New York City FC **
    2. Tyler Miller, 1993(30), Los Angeles FC *
    3. Brad Guzan, 1984(37), Atlanta United *
    4. Jesse Gonzalez, 1995(27), FC Dallas *


    Olympic:
    1. JT Marcinkowski, 1997*(25) San Jose Earthquakes **
    2. Jonathan Klinsmann, 1997*(25) FC St. Gallen **
    3. Brady Scott, 1999*(22) FC Koln **
    4. David Ochoa, 2001*(20) Real Salt Lake **
    5. CJ Dos Santos, 2000*(20) Benfica *
    6. Justin Vom Steeg, 1997*(25) LA Galaxy *


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    Pretenders:
    1. Bill Hamid, 1990(31), FC Midtjylland > DC United
    2. Alex Bono, 1994(28), Toronto FC
    3. Steffen Frei, 1986(36), Seattle Sounders FC
    4. Tim Melia, 1986(36), Sporting Kansas City
    5. Luis Robles, 1984(38) New York Red Bulls
    6. Matt Turner, 1994(27), New England Revolution
    7. Evan Bush, 1986(36) Montreal Impact
    8. Jeff Attinella, 1988(33) Portland Timbers
    9. David Bingham, 1989(32) LA Galaxy
    10. Quentin Westberg, 1986(36) Toronto FC

    Longshots:
    1. Joe Willis, 1988(33) Houston Dynamo
    2. Tyler Deric, 1988(33) Houston Dynamo
    3. Joe Bendik, 1989(33) Columbus Crew
    4. Ryan Meara, 1990(31) New York Red Bulls
    5. Matt Lampson, 1989(32) LA Galaxy

    Prospects:
    1. Chituru Odunze, 2002*(19) Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    2. Damian Las, 2002*(20) Chicago Fire
    3. Trey Muse, 1999*(22) Seattle Sounders
    4. Justin Garces, 2000*(21), Atlanta United


    RIGHT BACKS:
    Trust:

    1. DeAndre Yedlin, 1993(28), Newcastle United ****
    2. Reggie Cannon, 1998*(23), FC Dallas ***/*****

    Contenders:
    1. Sergino Dest, 2000*(21) Ajax Amsterdam **/*****
    2. Tim Chandler, 1990(32) Eintracht Frankfurt **
    3. Tommy Thompson, 1995(26) San Jose Earthquakes *


    Olympic:
    1. Brooks Lennon, 1997*(24), Real Salt Lake ****
    2. Julian Araujo, 2001*(20) LA Galaxy ****
    3. Marlon Fossey, 1998*(23), Fulham *
    4. Manny Perez, 1999*(23) Celtic FC > North Carolina FC *
    5. Matthew Olosunde, 1998*(24), Rotherham United *


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    Pretenders:
    1. Shaquell Moore, 1996(25), Levante
    2. Eric Lichaj, 1988(33) Hull City FC
    3. Keegan Rosenberry, 1993(28) Colorado Rapids
    4. Matt Polster, 1993(28) Rangers FC
    5. Jake Nerwinski, 1994(27) Vancouver Whitecaps
    6. Graham Zusi, 1986(35) Sporting Kansas City
    7. Tristan Blackmon, 1996(25) Los Angeles FC
    8. Desevio Payne, 1995(26) FC Emmen

    Longshots:
    1. Zarek Valentin, 1991(30) Portland Timbers
    2. Marlon Hairston, 1994(28) Colorado Rapids
    3. Eric Miller, 1993(29) Minnesota United
    4. Andrew Farrell, 1992(30) New England Revolution
    5. Chris Duvall, 1991(30) Houston Dynamo
    6. Raymond Gaddis, 1990(32) Philadelphia Union
    7. Hector Jimenez, 1988(33) Columbus Crew
    8. Ashton Gotz, 1993(28) Roda JC

    Prospects:
    1. Joseph Scally, 2002*(19) New York City FC
    2. Kyle Duncan, 1997*(24) New York Red Bulls



    CENTER BACKS:
    Trust:

    1. John Brooks, 1993(29), Wolfsburg ****
    2. Matt Miazga, 1995(26), Chelsea ***
    3. Aaron Long, 1992(29), New York Red Bulls ***
    4. Walker Zimmermann, 1993(29), Los Angeles FC ***

    Contenders:
    1. Cameron Carter-Vickers, 1997*(24), Tottenham Hotspur **/*****
    2. Miles Robinson, 1997*(25), Atlanta United */****
    3. Ventura Alvarado, 1992(29) Necaxa *


    Olympic:
    1. Chris Richards, 2000*(22) Bayern Munich *****
    2. Eric Palmer-Brown, 1997*(25), Manchester City ****
    3. Auston Trusty, 1998*(23), Philadelphia Union ****
    4. Justen Glad, 1997*(25), Real Salt Lake ****
    5. Mark McKenzie, 1999*(23) Philadelphia Union **
    6. Aboubacar Keita, 2000*(22) Columbus Crew *


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    Pretenders:
    1. Tim Parker, 1993(29), New York Red Bulls
    2. Omar Gonzalez, 1988(33) Atlas
    3. Brendan Hines-Ike, 1994(27) KV Kortrijk
    4. Jonathan Campbell, 1993(28) Seattle Sounders
    5. Matt Hedges, 1990(32), FC Dallas
    6. Ike Opara, 1989(33) Minnesota United
    7. Matt Besler, 1987(35) Sporting Kansas City
    8. Steve Birnbaum, 1991(31) DC United

    Longshots:
    1. Michael Parkhurst, 1984(38) Atlanta United
    2. Chad Marshall, 1984(38) Seattle Sounders
    3. Nick Hagglund, 1992(29) FC Cincinnati
    4. Daniel Steres, 1990(31) LA Galaxy
    5. Geoff Cameron, 1985(36) Queens Park Rangers
    6. Eriq Zavaleta, 1992(29) Toronto FC
    7. Michael Orozco Fiscal, 1986(36) Lobos
    8. Shane O’Neill, 1993(28) Orlando City SC
    9. Kortne Ford, 1996(26) Colorado Rapids
    10. Jalil Anibaba, 1988(34) New England Revolution
    11. Jimmy Ockford, 1992(29) San Jose Earthquakes
    12. Josh Williams, 1988(34) Columbus Crew
    13. Brent Kallman, 1990(31) Minnesota United
    14. Tomas Hilliard-Arce, 1995(26) LA Galaxy

    Prospects:
    1. Donovan Pines, 1998*(24) DC United
    2. Lennard Maloney, 1999*(22) Union Berlin
    3. Sam Rogers, 1999*(23) Seattle Sounders
    4. Hugo Arellano, 1998*(24) LA Galaxy
    5. Jacob Akanyirige, 2001*(20) San Jose Earthquakes
    6. Michael Edwards, 2000*(21) Wolfsburg
    7. Tommy Redding, 1997*(25), unattached


    LEFT BACKS:
    Trust:

    1. Nick Lima, 1994(27) San Jose Earthquakes ***

    Contenders:
    1. Kik Pierie, 2000*(21) Herrenveen (*Netherlands dual-national – Prefers Netherlands*) **/*****
    2. Antonee Robinson, 1997*(24) Wigan Athletic **/*****
    3. Fabian Johnson, 1987(34) Borussia Moenchengladbach **
    4. Daniel Lovitz, 1991(30) Montreal Impact *
    5. Tim Ream, 1987(34), Fulham *
    6. Chris Gloster, 2000*(21) Hannover 96 */****
    7. Brek Shea, 1990(32) Atlanta United *


    Olympic:
    1. George Bello, 2002*(20), Atlanta United (*Injured*) *****
    2. Sam Vines, 1999*(23), Colorado Rapids ***
    3. Aaron Herrera, 1997*(24) Real Salt Lake ***
    4. Matthew Real, 1999*(22), Philadelphia Union ***
    5. Jaylin Lindsey, 2000*(22) Sporting Kansas City **
    6. Danilo Acosta, 1997*(24) Orlando City SC **


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    Pretenders:
    1. Andrew Gutman, 1996(25) Celtic FC > North Carolina FC
    2. Justin Morrow, 1987(34) Toronto FC
    3. Greg Garza, 1991(30), FC Cincinnati (*Injured*)
    4. Edgar Castillo, 1986(35) New England Revolution
    5. Ryan Hollingshead, 1991(31) FC Dallas
    6. Ben Sweat, 1991(30) New York City FC
    7. Jorge Villafana, 1989(32) Portland Timbers
    8. Miguel Ibarra, 1990(32) Minnesota United

    Longshots:
    1. Brandon Bye, 1995(26) New England Revolution
    2. Dave Romney, 1993(28) LA Galaxy
    3. Seth Sinovic, 1987(35) Sporting Kansas City
    4. Connor Lade, 1989(32) New York Red Bulls
    5. Ryan Laursen, 1992(30) OB (*Denmark dual-national – undecided*)
    6. Shea Salinas, 1985(36) San Jose Earthquakes
    7. Jordan Harvey, 1984(38) Los Angeles FC
    8. Dillon Serna, 1994(28) Colorado Rapids
    9. Donny Toia, 1992(30) Real Salt Lake

    Prospects:
    1. Kobe Hernandez-Foster, 2002*(19) LA Galaxy
    2. Marco Farfan, 1998*(23), Portland Timbers
    3. Stuart Ritchie, 2001*(20), FC Groningen
    4. John Tolkin, 2002*(19) New York Red Bulls



    #6 MIDFIELDERS:
    Trust:

    1. Tyler Adams, 1999*(23) Red Bull Leipzig *****/*****

    Contenders:
    1. Alfredo Morales, 1990(32) Fortuna Dusseldorf **
    2. Michael Bradley, 1987(34) Toronto FC **
    3. Wil Trapp, 1993(29) Columbus Crew *
    4. Russell Canouse, 1995(26) DC United *

    Olympic:
    1. Brandon Servania, 1999*(23) FC Dallas ****
    2. James Sands, 2000*(21) New York City FC ****
    3. Keaton Parks, 1997*(24) New York City FC ***
    4. Chris Durkin, 2000*(22) DC United **
    5. Edwin Cerrillo, 2000*(21) FC Dallas **
    6. Christian Cappis, 1999*(22) Hobro IK **


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    Pretenders:
    1. Sean Davis, 1993(29) New York Red Bulls
    2. Danny Williams, 1989(33) Huddersfield Town (*Injured*)

    Longshots:

    1. Caleb Stanko, 1993(28) FC Cincinnati
    2. Nick Besler, 1993(29) Real Salt Lake
    3. Scott Caldwell, 1991(31) New England Revolution
    4. Fatai Alashe, 1993(28) FC Cincinnati
    5. Jeff Larentowicz, 1983(38) Atlanta United
    6. Dax McCarty, 1987(35) Chicago Fire
    7. Victor Ulloa, 1992(30) FC Cincinnati
    8. Perry Kitchen, 1992(30) LA Galaxy
    9. Eric Alexander, 1988(34) FC Cincinnati
    10. Fernando Arce, Jr, 1996(25) Dorados de Sinola
    11. Kyle Beckerman, 1982(40) Real Salt Lake

    Prospects:
    1. Derrick Jones, 1997*(25) Philadelphia Union
    2. Wan Kuzain, 1998*(23) Sporting Kansas City
    3. Chris Goslin, 2000*(22) Atlanta United
    4. Juan Torres, 1999*(22) New York City FC
    5. Cameron Lindley, 1997*(24) Orlando City
    6. Jack Maher, 1999*(22) unattached


    #8 MIDFIELDERS:
    Trust:

    1. Weston McKennie, 1998*(23) Schalke ****/*****

    Contenders:
    1. Cristian Roldan, 1995(26) Seattle Sounders **
    2. Darlington Nagbe, 1990(31) Atlanta United **
    3. Djordje Mihailovic, 1998*(23) Chicago Fire */****
    4. Kellyn Acosta, 1995(25) Colorado Rapids *
    5. Marky Delgado, 1995(27) Toronto FC *


    Olympic:
    1. Alex Mendez, 2000*(21) SC Freiburg ****
    2. Cole Bassett, 2001*(20) Colorado Rapids ****
    3. Jackson Yueill, 1997*(25) San Jose Earthquakes ***
    4. Kyle Scott, 1997*(24) Unattached *
    5. Gedion Zelalem, 1997*(25) Sporting Kansas City *


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    Pretenders:
    1. Sidney Friede, 1998*(24) Hertha Berlin > Royal Mouscron (*Germany dual-national – undecided*)
    2. Kelyn Rowe, 1991(30) Sporting Kansas City
    3. Joel Sonora, 1996(25), CA Talleres
    4. Alejandro Bedoya, 1987(35) Philadelphia Union
    5. Jacori Hayes, 1995(26) FC Dallas

    Longshots:
    1. Alejandro Guido, 1994(28) Los Angeles FC
    2. Brandt Bronico, 1995(26) Chicago Fire
    3. Luis Argudo, 1995(26) Columbus Crew
    4. Ian Harkes, 1995(27) Dundee United
    5. Tommy McNamara, 1991(31) Houston Dynamo
    6. Alex Roldan, 1996(25) Seattle Sounders

    Prospects:
    1. Eryk Williamson, 1997*(25) Portland Timbers
    2. Owen Otasowie, 2001*(21) Wolverhampton Wanderers
    3. Ian Hoffman, 2001*(20) Karlsruhe
    4. Isaac Angking, 2000*(22) New England Revolution
    5. Eric Calvillo, 1998*(24) San Jose Earthquakes
    6. Gilbert Fuentes, 2002*(20) San Jose Earthquakes
    7. Matt Hundley, 2000*(22) Colorado Rapids



    #10 MIDFIELDERS:
    Trust:

    1. Christian Pulisic, 1998*(23) Chelsea FC *****/*****


    Contenders:
    1. Paxton Pomykal, 1999*(22), FC Dallas **/*****
    2. Sebastian Lletget, 1992(29), LA Galaxy **
    3. Julian Green, 1995(26) Greuther Firth *


    Olympic:
    1. Giovanni Reyna, 2002*(20) Borussia Dortmund *****
    2. Brendan Aaronson, 2000*(21) Philadelphia Union ****
    3. Richard Ledezma, 2000*(21) PSV Eindhoven ****
    4. Gianluca Busio, 2002*(20), Sporting Kansas City ****
    5. Omir Fernandez, 1999*(23) New York Red Bulls ***
    6. Frankie Amaya, 2000*(21) FC Cincinnati **
    7. Luca De la Torre, 1998*(24) Fulham **


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    Pretenders:
    1. Joe Corona, 1990(31) LA Galaxy
    2. Emerson Hyndman, 1996(26) Bournemouth > Atlanta United
    3. Lee Nguyen, 1986(35) Los Angeles FC
    4. Benny Feilhaber, 1985(37) Colorado Rapids

    Longshots:
    1. Harry Shipp, 1991(30) Seattle Sounders
    2. Sacha Kljestan, 1985(36) Orlando City SC

    Prospects:
    1. Danny Leyva, 2003*(19) Seattle Sounders
    2. Taylor Booth, 2001*(21) Bayern Munich
    3. Anthony Fontana, 1999*(22) Philadelphia Union
    4. Ben Mines, 2000*(22) New York Red Bulls
    5. Andrew Carleton, 2000*(21) Atlanta United


    WINGERS:
    Trust:

    1. Timothy Weah, 2000*(22), Lille OSC ***/*****
    2. Tyler Boyd, 1994(27) Besiktas ***
    3. Paul Arriola, 1995(27) DC United ***
    4. Duane Holmes, 1994(27) Derby County ***


    Contenders:
    1. Jordan Morris, 1994(26), Seattle Sounders **
    2. Jonathan Amon, 1999*(23) FC Nordsjaelland **/*****
    3. Jonathan Lewis, 1997*(24) Colorado Rapids */****
    4. Corey Baird, 1996(26) Real Salt Lake *
    5. Joseph Gyau, 1992(29) MSV Duisburg *

    Olympic:
    1. Konrad De La Fuente, 2001*(20), FC Barcelona ****
    2. Ulysses Lanez, 2001*(21) Wolfsburg ****
    3. Emmanuel Sabbi, 1997*(24) Hobro IK ***
    4. Timothy Tillman, 1999*(23) Bayern Munich (*Germany dual-national – Prefers USA*) **
    5. Sebastian Saucedo, 1997*(25) Real Salt Lake **
    6. Mukwelle Akale, 1997*(25) Villarreal CF *
    7. DeJuan Jones, 1997*(24) New England Revolution *
    8. Efrain Alvarez, 2002*(19) LA Galaxy (*Mexico dual-national – Prefers Mexico*) *

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    Pretenders:
    1. Lynden Gooch, 1995(26) Sunderland
    2. Romain Gall, 1995(27), Malmo FF
    3. Fafa Picault, 1991(31), Philadelphia Union
    4. Chris Mueller, 1996(25) Orlando City
    5. Alex Muyl, 1995(26) New York Red Bulls
    6. Kenny Saief, 1993(28) FC Cincinnati
    7. Memo Rodriguez, 1995(26) Houston Dynamo

    Longshots:
    1. Gboly Ariyibi, 1995(27) Motherwell FC
    2. Kekuta Manneh, 1994(26) FC Cincinnati
    3. Rubio Rubin, 1996(26) Dorados
    4. Ethan Finlay, 1990(31) Minnesota United
    5. Bradford Jamieson, 1996(25) LA Galaxy
    6. Chris Pontius, 1987(35) LA Galaxy

    Prospects:
    1. Joshua Perez, 1998*(24) Los Angeles FC
    2. Kevin Lankford, 1998*(23) FC St Pauli
    3. Thomas Roberts, 2001*(21) FC Dallas
    4. Indiana Vassiliev, 2001*(21) Aston Villa
    5. Nick Taitague, 1999*(23) Schalke
    6. Cade Cowell, 2003*(18) San Jose Earthquakes
    7. Zyen Jones, 2000*(21) Schalke
    8. Lagos Kunga, 1998*(23) Atlanta United
    9. Jacobo Reyes, 2000*(21) Monterrey
    10. Tajon Buchanan, 2000*(23) New England Revolution


    FORWARDS:
    Trust:

    1. Jozy Altidore, 1989(32), Toronto FC ***
    2. Josh Sargent, 2000*(22) Werder Bremen ***/*****

    Contenders:
    1. Sebastian Soto, 2000*(22) Hannover 96 **/*****
    2. Gyasi Zardes, 1991(30), Columbus Crew **
    3. Andrija Novakovich, 1996(25) Reading FC **
    4. Andrew Wooten, 1989(32) SV Sandhausen *
    5. Bobby Wood, 1992(29), Hamburg *
    6. Jordan Siebatcheu, 1996(26) Reims (*France Dual National – Prefers France*) *

    Olympic:
    1. Jeremy Ebobisse, 1997*(25), Portland Timbers ***
    2. Mason Toye, 1998*(23) Minnesota United ***
    3. Jesus Ferreira, 2000*(21), FC Dallas [*Colombia dual national – Prefers USA*] ***
    4. Haji Wright, 1998*(24), VVV Venlo ***
    5. Brandon Vasquez, 1998*(24) Atlanta United **
    6. Ayo Akinola, 2000*(22), Toronto FC **
    7. Ricardo Pepi, 2003*(18) North Texas SC **
    8. Griffin Yow, 2002*(20) DC United **
    9. Alfonso Ocampo-Cavez, 2002*(20) Seattle Sounders **
    10. Justin Rennicks, 1999*(23) New England Revolution *
    11. Benji Michel, 1997*(24) Real Salt Lake *


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    Pretenders:
    1. Christian Ramirez, 1991(31), Los Angeles FC
    2. Dom Dwyer, 1990(31), Orlando City
    3. CJ Sapong, 1988(33), Chicago Fire
    4. Teal Bunbury, 1990(32) New England Revolution
    5. Juan Agudelo, 1992(29) New England Revolution
    6. Terrence Boyd, 1991(31) Toronto FC
    7. Jann George, 1992(29) Jahn Regensburg
    8. Brian White, 1996(26) New York Red Bulls
    9. Aron Johannsson, 1990(31) Hammarby

    Longshots:
    1. Patrick Mullins, 1992(30) Toronto FC
    2. Niki Jackson, 1995(26) Colorado Rapids
    4. Erik Hurtado, 1990(31) Sporting Kansas City
    5. Chris Wondolowski, 1983(39) San Jose Earthquakes

    Prospects:
    1. Josh Pynadath, 2002*(20) Ajax Amsterdam.
    2. George Acosta, 2000*(22) Boca Juniors
    3. Nebiyou Perry, 1999*(22) FC Koln
    4. Shaft Brewer, 1999*(22) Los Angeles FC
    5. McKenzie Gaines, 1998*(24) Darmstadt
    6. Isaiah Young, 1998*(24) Werder Bremen
    7. Siad Haji, 1999*(22) San Jose Earthquakes
    8. Pierre DaSilva, 1998(23) Orlando City SC
    9. Dante Sealy, 2003(19) FC Dallas
     
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  6. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Thanks for updating. I like the system as it gives us a perspective on each players ceiling. I would think two stars equals MLS/Championship/B2 level. That being said, how can someone who earns time for a UCL/Europa team get two stars?

    It’s one thing to say that someone is injury prone, etc. but if they can get reasonable minutes for a major league team, they’re already shown that their ceiling/potential is above the MLS level.
     
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  7. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who are you talking about specifically?

    I am trying out the 5 star rating system and combining it with current vs potential value; so I’m definitely open to hearing who should be ranked higher/lower and why.
     
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  8. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Morales, Fabian and chandler are all major league talents when uninjured. Not UCL elite but Near the Europa competition spots.

    If uninjured, I think about Williams having that kind of ceiling as well.
     
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  9. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    As always... I appreciate your effort and am almost perfectly aligned with your analysis... only a few add/subtract stars in your list.... nothing major. Really well done. The most glaring thing I take from you effort pertains to holding midfield (#6)... I think Adams could be the most important player on our 2022 WCQ Team... and when you look at the ratings you gave Trapp and Bradley... you have to wonder how GB could be so clueless.?.? One can only hope that he gives up on this lame hybrid idea and puts Adams where he belongs.
     
  10. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    #285 DHC1, Jul 15, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2019
    Eleven Bravo,

    I had a similar thought to your Trust Rating Scale, although it was more focused on ceiling.

    Maybe

    5 star = High Ceiling
    4 star = Good Ceiling
    3 star = Modest ceiling?

    BTW, both our summaries show that our CM pool is seriously shallow in quality players, which makes it even crazier to move our best CM to another position when the drop-off to pool players (cuz we don't want German-Americans in the MF apparently) is immense.
     
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  11. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have now updated all the player minutes for the May friendlies, and the Gold Cup games...

    I do my best to record the most accurate info. if anyone sees a mistake please let me know

    Here is the link to the Google Sheet

    So far GGG had 1 provisional roster, 4 camps, and 12 games since taking over.

    1 Provisonal Roster:
    (1) 40 Man Gold Cup,

    4 Camps:
    (1) Jan Camp, (2) March Friendlies, (3) May Friendlies, (4) Gold Cup Camp

    12 Rosters/Games:
    (1) Panama, (2) Costa Rica, (3) Ecuador, (4) Chile, (5) JAM, (6) VEN, (7) GUY, (8) TRI, (9) PAN, (10) CUW, (11) JAM, (12) MEX

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    Rules for this pool:
    • GGG has/had to list a player on a roster or call them up to a camp
    • All info (Minutes Played, Caps, Camps etc) is accumulated from when GGG took over

    Use the tabs along the bottom of the spread sheet to view player positions.
     
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  12. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Projections for 2022....

    Goalkeepers:
    1. Zack Steffen (27) Fortuna Düsseldorf
    2. Ethan Horvath (26) Club Brugge
    3. Sean Johnson (33) New York City FC
    -
    Contenders: Tyler Miller (30), Brad Guzan (37)

    Right Backs:
    1. DeAndre Yedlin (28) Newcastle United
    2. Reggie Cannon (23) FC Dallas
    -
    Contenders: Tim Chandler (32), Tommy Thompson(26), Julian Araujo (20), Manny Perez (23), Brooks Lennon (24), Shaquelle Moore (25)

    Center Backs:
    1. John Brooks (29) VfL Wolfsburg
    2. Matt Miazga (26) Chelsea
    3. Cameron Carter-Vickers (24) Tottenham Hotspurs
    4. Chris Richards (22) Bayern Munich
    -
    Contenders: Walker Zimmerman (29), Aaron Long (29), Ventura Alvarado (29), Miles Robinson (25), Eric Palmer-Brown (25), Justen Glad (25), Aboubacar Keita (22), Auston Trusty (23)

    Left Backs:
    1. Sergino Dest (21) Ajax Amsterdam
    2. Antonee Robinson (25) Wigan Athletic
    -
    Contenders: Nick Lima (27), Chris Gloster (21), George Bello (20), Andrew Gutman (25)

    #6 Midfielders:
    1. Tyler Adams (23) Red Bull Leipzig
    2. Alfredo Morales (32) Fortuna Düsseldorf
    -
    Contenders: Michael Bradley (34), Wil Trapp (29), Russell Canouse (26), Brandon Servania (23), James Sands (21), Christian Cappis (22)

    #8 Midfielders:
    1. Weston McKennie (23) Schalke
    2. Darlington Nagbe (31) Atlanta United
    -
    Contenders: Cristian Roldan (26), Alexis Mendez (21), Cole Bassett (20), Jackson Yuiell (25), Kellyn Acosta (25), Marky Delgado (27)

    #10 Midfielders:
    1. Christian Pulisic (23) Chelsea
    2. Paxton Pomykal (22) FC Dallas
    -
    Contenders: Djordje Mihailovic (23), Sebastian Lletget (29), Julian Green (26), Brendan Aaronson (21), Richard Ledezma (21), Gianluca Busio (20), Frankie Amaya (21), Danny Leyva (19), Taylor Booth (21), Luca De la Torre (24), Omir Fernandez (23), Emo Hyndman (26)

    Right/Left Wingers:
    1. Tim Weah (22) Lille OSC
    2. Giovanni Reyna (20) Borussia Dortmund
    3. Tyler Boyd (27) Besiktas
    4. Paul Arriola (27) DC United
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    Contenders: Duane Holmes (27), Jonathan Amon (23), Jonathan Lewis (24), Jordan Morris (26), Corey Baird (26), Joe Gyau (29) , Uly Llanez (21), Konrad de la Fuente (20), Emmanuel Sabbi (24), Tim Tillman (23), Roman Gall (27)

    Forwards:
    1. Josh Sargent (22) Werder Bremen
    2. Sebastian Soto (22) Hannover 96
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    Contenders: Jozy Altidore (32), Gyasi Zardes (30), Andrija Novakovich (25), Bobby Wood (29), Jeremy Ebobisse (25), Mason Toye (23), Brandon Vasquez (24), Jesus Ferreira (21), Haji Wright (24), Ayo Akinola (22), Ricardo Pepi (18), Alfonso Ocampo-Chavez (20), Griffin Yow (20)
     
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  13. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Possibly, we might have one of the youngest teams in the tournament.
     
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  14. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Very interesting but I cannot fathom only having 5 MLS players on the roster and likely only two starting.

    I’m guessing that Berhalter will triple both of those numbers.
     
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  15. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member

    Aug 1, 2014
    I am afraid that is correct. But 11 Bravo's roster looks spot on, based on what we know now. Of course, things are almost certain to change, with the likely exception of the current pro-MLS bias.
     
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  16. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    This will be an exciting start to the European season. A lot of youngsters up for increased minutes. Weah and Sargent look like they will have a chance to be a starter. Gloster and Soto are solidly in the first team now. Little Gio Reyna might even have a chance to put his foot in the door this year.
     
  17. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    tonight, 7/26/19,
    playing in MLS


    NYCFC, Keaton Parks CM............starting

    SPKC, Gianluca Busio AM, Gedion Zelalem HM...........neither starting

    LAFC, Walker Zimmerman CB

    ATL, Miles Robinson D, Emerson Hyndman M, Brandon Vazquez F, George Bello D
     
  18. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I am really excited about this list. We've got a lot of players 4 stars or above and the development pipeline is full of exciting prospects. Now if we can get our coach to look more broadly at this list instead of thinking that the vast majority of the pool must be from MLS, we just may have something.....

    5 star / World Class / Top 32 team

    • Pulisic/Chelsea (7)
    • Adams/RB Leipzig (14)
    • Pierie/Ajax (15)
    4 star / Major League / Top 100 team
    • Chandler/Eintracht (37)
    • FJ/Gladbach (41)
    • Brooks/Wolfsburg (45)
    • Yedlin/Newcastle (48)
    • Sargent/Werder Bremen (50)
    • Horvath/Brugge (55)
    • Weah/Lille (57)
    • McKennie/Schalke (61)
    • Ream/Fulham (74, wut?)
    • Morales/Fortuna Düsseldorf (88)
    • Steffen/Fortuna Düsseldorf (88)
    • Tyler Boyd/Beşiktaş (98)
    3 star / AAA Level (Top 200)
    • Siebatcheau/Rennes (119)
    • Gall/Malmo (167)
    • Holmes/Derby County (178)
    AA Level (Top 400~MLS)
    • Cameron/QPR (209)
    • Lichaj/Hull City (224)
    • Amon/FC Nordsjælland (234)
    • Wood/Hannover (240)
    • Soto/Hannover (240)
    • Alvarado/Necaxa (251)
    • Robinson/Wigan (253)
    • Palmer-Brown/Austria Vienna (272)
    • Klinsmann/St. Gallen (301)
    • Gooch/Sunderland (302)
    • Miazga/Reading (310)
    • Novakovich/Reading (310)
    • Wright/VVV-Venlo (348)
    • Diskerud/Ulsan Hyundai (NR)
    A Level Top 600 (Yikes)
    • Moore/Tenerife (428)
    • Sabbi/Hobro IK (433)
    • Green/Greuther Fürth (477)
    Arguments can be made in how to slot these players relative to the list above.

    World Class Irregular/Reserve/Injured
    • Richards/Bayern Munich (2)
    • Reyna/Dortmund (9)
    • Dest/Ajax (15)
    • Mendez/Ajax (15)
    • Carter-Vickers/Tottenham (9)
    Major League Irregular/Reserve/Injured
    • Akale/Villareal (42)
    • Llanez/Wolfburg (45)
    • Ledesma/PSV (46)
    • Gloster/PSV (46)
    • de la Torre/Fulham (78)
    AAA Irregular/Reserve/Injured
    • Williams
    • Polster/Rangers FC (125)
    AA Reserve/Injured
    • Tillman/FC Nürnberg (208)
    • AronJo/Hammersby (231)
    • Corona/Tijuana (248)
    A Level Top 600 (Yikes)
    • Kevin Lankford/St. Pauli (426)

    club rank by 538 [exact ranking doesn't really matter but broadly works]

    Green = potential to rise to higher level
    Red = risk of falling to a lower level or getting benched
    Italics = American born/raised outside of the US, whose USMNT success apparently indicates that the US' "developmental system fails to produce good players"
     
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  19. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 6, 2006
    Gooch and Miazga...literally next to each other in the same group

    have to say miazga should either be up a group or gooch down.
     
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  20. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC

    Nice work! Based on this, MLS has received 69% of all minutes played so far. Some of that is due to Camp Cupcake, injuries and U-2x qualifying but c'mon. Look at the list of players on this posts 287 and 293 and defend almost 70%. Going forward, I think the number should be at most 25% but I believe that Berhalter will have a minimum of 5-6 starters and the 60%+ of the pool from MLS. I hope I'm wrong.
     
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  21. NietzscheIsDead

    United States
    May 31, 2019

    Thanks for posting this. You put a lot of time and effort into it.

    The main quibble I would have would be that Paxton Pomykal is not a #10, he's more of a #8/#6 blend. I'd say that he'd immediately fit into the #8 list above Roldan and behind McKennie.

    I'd venture to say that a rating system based on game impact may be a good tool. Which players impact the game positively? In what way? Which players are anonymous? Which players impact the game negatively?
     
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  22. gogorath

    gogorath Member

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I think Paxton fits best in McKennie's role -- right where you said. But I'm not sure he's an international six because of size, and I think he ends up better attacking than he's showing in Dallas.
     
  23. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 6, 2006
    is this a polite way of saying this player sucks?
     
  24. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 6, 2006

    the biggest issue with the list is the numbers are used by fans this just isn't the way the game works anymore.

    the entire he is a 6...no he is an 8...oh no he's a 8/6 hybrid....no he's a 10 playing an 8...is all crazy.

    teams have to adapt way too much tactically over the course of the match to think lineups are done like this and its especially true when you look at a national team.
     
  25. NietzscheIsDead

    United States
    May 31, 2019
    Turnovers, changes negated/lost/missed, failure to mark, shots off goal, etc.
     

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