USMNT Chief Scout Thomas Rongen: Messi's "lack of high soccer IQ makes him average w Argentina"

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  1. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Maybe what he meant was that he'd driven to the house and watched Jonathan from a back window as he slept. Three times.

    He just wanted to be near him.
     
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  2. Hararea

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    Jan 21, 2005
    Richie Williams also drove Gonzalez's U17 teammates Abraham Romero and Edwin Lara to leave the USYNT program and join Mexico's.
     
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  3. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Did Rongen also lie about getting fired? The top tweet "ex" has been deleted, the "got fired" tweet from Oct 18 is still there, but it sure seems like Rongen is still US Soccer chief scout.... (unfortunately)
     
  4. xbhaskarx

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    NorCal
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    Franco Panizo at SBI:

    Report: U.S. Soccer never visited Jonathan Gonzalez at home



    ESPN analyst Herculez Gomez said on Monday via the Max & Herc podcast that Thomas Rongen, U.S. Soccer’s lone full-time scout, did not go and visit Gonzalez’s home prior to the teenager’s decision to switch allegiances from the U.S. to Mexico. Rongen had claimed in a CBS article earlier this month that he had visited the midfielder’s “house three times” in 2017, but Gomez said both the player and his dad refuted that.

    ...

    “Rongen said, ‘Jonathan’s father is correct. I never went to go see him at his house specifically,'” said Gomez. “He then said he has been to Monterrey three times. He didn’t specify if he tried reaching out to Jonathan himself, but he said he spoke to officials down there. We spoke both via phone and text. At this point, I didn’t know if he was referring to Monterrey or (the Mexican federation) but his claim about seeing Jonathan at his house on three specific times is false.”

    ...

    Gomez also shared an anecdote regarding Gonzalez’s younger days. The analyst said that former U.S. Under-17 coach Richie Williams reached out to Gonzalez and his family when the player was 14, asking if Gonzalez wanted to join the U.S.’s residency program. At the time, Gonzalez had multiple offers from Liga MX clubs to play in an academy tournament and was assessing which team to represent.

    “They asked (Williams) if it was okay if they could think it over because he had this potential offers as well,” said Gomez. “Richie Williams put an all-or-nothing, take-it-or-leave-it, you-have-10-minutes-to-decide-or-I’m-going-to-the-next-player proposal.”​
     
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  5. VBCity72

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    This just keeps getting better and better. I still hate that he left and more importantly said that he was with team USA until the last min but I no longer blame him for leaving.
     
  6. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

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    WrongAgain got caught fibbing. I'm shocked!
     
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  7. butters59

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    Feb 22, 2013
    Subotic says "Hello".
     
  8. xbhaskarx

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    NorCal
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    United States
    Rongen's Twitter is something else... once again he's implying that he's no longer employed, maybe it's actually true this time?



    He also took a completely random and unexpected shot at Freddy Adu:

     
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  9. sXeWesley

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  10. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

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    He's an enigma who loves himself. So glad he's fading off into the sunset.
     
  11. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    Random, perhaps, but can any shot at Adu really be unexpected?
     
  12. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

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    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
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    United States
    Rongen is at it again!








    The "best tweet": Sir Thomas, I have to say, your Messi comments have been the best I’ve seen on Twitter. Thank you for speaking the truth. Messi is a poor player.
     
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  13. USA-Zebuel

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    What a total and complete ass.
     
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  14. sXeWesley

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  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn: "that guy’s like taxes, he just don’t know when to stop.”
     
  16. Cliveworshipper

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    Dec 3, 2006
    And if you are wondering about the poor state of USA soccer, Thomas Rongen is a coach in the system in charge of talent evaluation.
     
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  17. sXeWesley

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    And has been for decades and is just one of many of the same group of people that have been recycled over and over again, including the current coaching staff, which after failing in the most spectacular way imaginable is still in place.

    Meanwhile, we get more stories about how Sarachan, who got passed over for a 3rd rate college job at St Louis university, is actually considered a legitimate candidate for the head coaching position long term, then we do any stories from soccer "journalists" about the liar, the effects, consequences and what if any changes will be made moving forward in the talent evaluation department.

    Point being Rongen is a small little symptom of the poor state of US soccer
     
  18. USA-Zebuel

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    We can’t have anything nice...
     
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  19. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Don't forget he was head coach of our U-20 team from 2001 to 2011!* The man shaped our young talents and mind for a generation.

    (** Except for a brief sabbatical in 05-'06 that he spent getting fired from Chivas.)

    His greatest career accomplishment was leading American Samoa to victory over Tonga. Giant-killers.

    Then he directed the Toronto FC academy, got fired in less than a year coaching the Tampa Bay Rowdies, and then was crowned as chief international scout by Arena, in a career path that defines the phrase "failing upwards."

    And I think he's still technically in that role along with the rest of Arena's staff.
     
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  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

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    It's all in the terms of the contract. If you're hired under the right contract and prove inept, all that is left is kick you upward.
     
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  21. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

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    Comments like Rogans are a sad reminder that it's not about what you know, but rather WHO you know.
     
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  22. russ

    russ Member+

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    It's worse than that-it's the old distrust of pure talent that is common in so many American/British coaches in any sport.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    You know he's Dutch, right?
     
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  24. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

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    We know he says he's Dutch...
     
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  25. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
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    How long has he been immersed in this system?
    He is assimilated...
     
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