This has only been posted in the NASL threads, but I think it needs to be here as well for the USL-1 side of the discussion. http://www.ussoccer.com/News/Articl...Votes-to-Not-Sanction-Division-II-League.aspx
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Which is another reason why I thought splitting the forums was premature. Now we end up with the same discussion in two seperate places - with one result being one league with two seperate forums. Sweet.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Was looking for the offical NASL website to see what their official press release said. But.. I had no luck in finding it.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned some careful and peculiar wording in that USL press release. I'm not sure I understand what they are implying with this: "USL will continue to move ahead with its preparations for the 2010 USL-1 season in the appropriate membership category." They also alluded to a "newly-implemented re-sanctioning process for professional league members." As far as I know, that is more information than we heard from USSF (i.e. more than none) about the sanctioning process that the leagues were undergoing recently.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Actually, besides this small thread there has been no or little discussion on the USL forum. Sad really.
Respuesta: Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned But here's the closest thing: https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19594285&postcount=50
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned http://www.uslsoccer.com/home/390471.html In support of USSF’s efforts to find a resolution for the upcoming season at its Division II Men’s Professional League level, USL very recently agreed to one of the proposals made by USSF requiring USL-1 and the contemplated North American Soccer League (NASL) to come together for 2010. USL remains willing to proceed with this USSF-proposed scenario in order to enable the 2010 season over the course of the next several days. Meanwhile, USL will continue to move ahead with its preparations for the 2010 USL-1 season in the appropriate membership category.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Quality not Quanity I suppose I could post random links with no description, or tin-foil hat conspiracy theories or I could just repeat myself over and over again regardless if someone had corrected my misinformation. But the NASL press release has a different tone
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned so who is the NASL's 11th team? to my knowledge they claim Vancouver, Montreal, Rochester, Minnesota, St Louis, Baltimore, Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa Bay and Miami. that makes 10. are they including the team that Edmonton will inherit from Vancouver in 2011?
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned They did use the vague "2010 and beyond". I guess they could pretty much use any group that has shown interest at this point. Its pretty obvious that USSF didn't like whatever number and teams NASL used on their application.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned I think it means USL won't pursue as a 2nd level league after MLS for now, but rather try to get sanctinoned as whatever appropriate position as a professional league. I think it's good decision by USSF leaving the door open for both parties to work toghether.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned It makes sense for the two to play nice this season. One other point. While the USL was not sanctioned neither was the NASL. NASL may not have 8 viable teams because 1. Minnesota has debts 2. Atlanta did not play last year 3. St. Louis and Tampa are startups 4. CP Baltimore and Tampa are being sued by USL. 5. Not sure if Rochester is also being sued. So viable teams are essentially Vancouver, Montreal, Carolina and Miami.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Makes sense for them to work together for 2010? Why? Because they hate each other? Because they will most likely to everything they can to undermine the other even if they "do whats right for soccer" for 2010? Sure, its great that there will be some Div2 soccer league for 2010. That will be great (hey thats not a given yet either, as of right now, there is no 2010 Div2 soccer). But its not going to be long term solution. Where there is smoke there is fire. There is something smoking about the USL/NASL clubs relationship. And USSF didn't solve anything except delaying it til 2011.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Technically, the way things are going, they're going to have to archive and delete both forums, so it really doesn't matter either way.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned By this logic, somebody better tell MLS that Philadelphia Union isn't viable for 2010. ACStL has a stadium, a coach, a youth system, and the same staff that successfully ran a WPS team last year. They're as viable as any other team in either league.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Seems to me USL seems to think that a resolution will be for the NASL teams to come back into the USL fold.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Maybe the threat of having no league at all will be enough to finally make USL budge and give the NASL owners what they want. But I'm not holding my breath. NuRock so far hasn't been very willing to budge on anything and has been very fond of strong arm tactics. I would be much less surprised if they continue using the paddle instead of the carrot with the NASL owners even now. And that's not something the NASL owners will respond well to.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned The status of the lawsuit: The way it looks to me, and I could be wrong, but it looks like the judge told USL to go f*** itself. The teams asked for voluntary dismissal on December 21, and it was granted. The case is closed.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Sure looks like the case was dismissed. I wonder why this hasn't been reported anywhere? Unless of course the entire case wasn't thrown out which would explain USSF stating that neither side had enough teams. Unless of course they consider some of the "incoming" teams to NASL inviable.
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned Those could only be NASL teams if the lawsuit went their way. ...on the other hand it sure looks like it did, so that leaves us in a state of
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned I don't think the 3 sued teams were what gave USSF pause about NASL. Rather it was probably teams like St. Louis, Atlanta, Tampa, and Minnesota who exist in name only. They have varying states of no coach, no players, no stadium, etc... We're awfully late in the game for teams to be sans players, coaches, stadiums, FO's...
Re: USL 1 De-sanctioned wut? I thought AC St. Louis is in very good shape, even used to ba a contender for a MLS spot.