USL League Design Superthread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by Bubba1971, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Country:
    United States
    For me I think it looks like this for this year..

    Expansion is the question on fast Florida teams move to East, but for this year I think it makes sense for them to start in Central. Did not put Edmonton (W) or Puerto Rico (E) as not sold they will be added

    East (12): Ottawa FC, Toronto II, Rochester, NYRBII, Bethlehem, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh, Richmond, Charlotte, Charleston, Carolina Miami FC
    Central (12): RGV, San Antonio FC, Energy FC, Tulsa, Swope Park, St Louis, FC Cincinnati, Lou City, Indy 11, OCB, TB Rowdies, Jacksonville,
    West (11): Whitecaps II, Sounders II, Timbers II, Sac Republic, Reno FC, SF Deltas, Los Dos, OC Blues, Phoenix Rising, Real Monarchs, Switchbacks FC
     
  2. greenroom

    greenroom BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Country:
    United States
    USL announced that there would be a 32 game schedule for this year.
     
  3. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Country:
    United States
    My guess is those putting Reno and RGV in a theoretical D3 league is based on their unique MLS connection not attendance or other such criteria.
     
  4. Owen Thornhill

    Dec 22, 2012
    Club:
    Cork City
    He asked how many team's you can have 48 teams with 28-30 games as long as it 4 x 12 team conferences. That would be my Upper limit. no rush to get to 48 but that would be my limit. I would at the same time like to see PDL, NPSL and the other "semi pro" regional leagues work together to form a new Division 3 (less than current standards) With the long term goal to have pro/rel between div 2 and div 3. Only when the top (PDL/NPSL etc.) clubs are ready.
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Country:
    United States
    The D3 standards are not particularly onerous.

    Lowering them so that the likes of FC Hasental might have a shot at being D3 does not help us overall. Raising the quality of those clubs so they can actually be professional should be the goal, not lowering the bar.

    We have to stop with this, seriously.

    These teams are where they are because they have no ability or no desire to be professional and throw off their business model.

    Blah blah blah Fresno blah blah blah Des Moines blah blah blah all the amateur teams supposedly wanting to go pro blah blah blah.

    D3 had as many as 39 teams once and a lot of them were crap. It had as few as six teams before, too. It is not mission critical that we figure out how to backfill D3 yet.

    And teams moved between D3 and D2 for years based on their abilities and ambitions, not something as ephemeral as one season's worth of results.

    Almost no one gave a rat's ass about D3 prior to 2010 and now they are coming up with all these exotic ways to save it.
     
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  6. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    catfish9, why do you have Ottawa listed as not meeting Div 2? Their stadium holds up to 24K for CFL games and their ownership meets requirements as well.

    Your Conference setup has merit but I would probably break it up into East, Central, and West Conferences, then as more teams join a conference and it reaches over 16 teams, break that conference into North and South Divisions and then eventually conferences in their own right. The more teams that join the league, the shorter the travel will become.
     
  7. catfish9

    catfish9 Member

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Country:
    United States
    Partly from being completely uniformed as to their situation - did it in 10 minutes with little research. But also because in the end won't they likely ;eave for Canadian league?
     
  8. UCFWayne

    UCFWayne Member

    United States
    Apr 22, 2014
    Orlando, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Country:
    United States
    36 teams with 3 divisions of 12 or 4 divisions of 9. I like the idea of 4 divisions a little better, but either works for me.
     
  9. fighting muskie

    Mar 30, 2016
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Fierce regional rivalries are part of what makes college sports so great. I'm a fan of either of these models.
     
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  10. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    I'm sure Ottawa would jump to a Canadian League if it materialized (odds are probably better than 50/50 at this point that it happens). I plan to ask my ticket rep about that when I renew my seasons. I am curious as to how well both Tampa and Ottawa perform in the USL as a quality benchmark. However, Ottawa again has trimmed down their roster by half and it looks like they're going to get some players from the Montreal Impact on loan, so there could be some talent dilution. A lot of this year I think is going to be about controlling costs.
     
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