USL Expansion General discussion

Discussion in 'USL Expansion' started by mikehurst21, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, you brought up ticket price ... I don't understand the point of ticket price when it comes to the outlook of development teams. Sure it matters when comparing RGV attendance vs an independent, but many other things matter just as much. I doubt if cost is driving attendance down ... and I really doubt development teams in markets where there are no high levels being played is an issue. Marketing, ticket sales strategies, promotions, facilities (fan experience) are likely just as big of an issue and they're different in every situation.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    What I was trying to get at was that (I think) people go to MiLB games because they're a cheap day/evening out to watch baseball. I could be completely wrong on this, but I don't think there are (many, at any rate) passionate Rumble Ponies or Macon Bacon fans (maybe Rumble Ponies. I mean... Rumble Ponies!). I also highly doubt that the Salt Lake Bees or the Mobile Bay Bears are massively increasing Anaheim's fan bases in Utah and south Alabama, respectively. MiLB is a pretty dispassionate experience vis-a-vis the actual baseball. You go for the atmosphere (which, also, is very laid back in baseball) and the individual players, but I don't think the teams matter much. I don't think when the Sand Gnats moved from Savannah to Columbia and were replaced with the Bananas that anyone in Savannah kept their allegiances to the Sand Gnats. I also really don't think that majority of people that pass through MiLB care overall how their local team is doing as long as it was a fun day at the ballpark when they go.

    Soccer is a really different game, though. Individuals have far less of an effect (usually). So while Ricardo Pepi might draw some interest, it's also really possible that the rest of the team is in a state (or the opponent's defense) that he's taken completely out of the game. Last season, baseball fans in Manchester, NH and Buffalo knew that Vlad Guerrero, Jr. was going to be at the plate 3 or 4 times a game regardless of whatever the rest of the team looked like.
     
  3. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't think I disagree with any of that ... but I also don't understand why ticket pricing is an issue in soccer ... or maybe it isn't. I do think, that if done correctly, the developmental teams can draw from people wanting to see players from their "own home town" or region. I am an Austria Wien fan this year based on a kid from my neck of the woods being on their team. If a developmental team has a handful of local players, I can see why fans would come and see them play. I do think some players can draw fans for many different reasons though.
     
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    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    I just think it's a much harder sell when it's going to cost $60 (plus fees) for a family of 4 simply to get through the gate if there's not much excitement about or connection to the team, although obviously that isn't exclusive to reserves teams.
     
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  5. Blando13

    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't disagree ... but I'd be shocked if teams wanted higher attendance and had those costs for entry. Swope Park certainly don't have those costs. They have other reasons for attendance issues ... but really, they aren't that concerned with it ... just concern from USL/twitter/reddit fans!
     
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  6. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
    United States
    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
    Club:
    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would still like to see a USL-1 team in Wichita and to have an agreement for a few of the better SKC Academy players to be loaned to them for a season.
     
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    Blando13 Member+

    Dec 4, 2013
    Lee's Summit, MO
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd rather have those Academy players playing for Swope in USL1 against Wichita, Topeka, Springfield, Columbia, Des Moines, Omaha, Little Rock, etc.
     
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