Post-match: USA vs. Venezuela - June 9, 2019

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Jun 9, 2019.

  1. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    The US put on quite a show this afternoon in Cincinnati. Should Berhalter's job be on the line in the Gold Cup?
     
    jackiesdad, Beerking, kennytt and 15 others repped this.
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    Arsenal
    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Bring on Guyana. I think we can bunker and hold out for a 1-0.
     
  3. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The lack of booing made me unhappy.
     
  4. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I advise all MNT fans to stop watching any further matches involving the senior team. It'll be a lot easier on you in the long run. That's what I've started doing.
     
  5. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Live production of The Walking Dead
     
  6. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    I said this in the PBP thread but it’s really inexcusable for the team to be this poorly organized defensively. I don’t think we have enough talent to be actually good but there’s no reason for us to be this legitimately bad.

    If England is struggling to play out of the back with technically very good players, we shouldn’t even dream of trying it with this lot.
     
  7. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    He's picking the right players.

    AAA players sometimes perform better than Major League players. Landon played in MLS.

    No need for Morales.

    We are still picking up the system.

    Lol
     
    zhe fulano, sakibomb523, Gacm32 and 2 others repped this.
  8. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    they should’ve hired a foreign coach with no pet favorites to ruthlessly cull this pool
     
  9. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Segue into “sound of silence” as first postgame TV commercial.
     
    Winoman, UncagedGorilla and largegarlic repped this.
  10. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    words can not describe how awful we were today.
     
  11. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    What happened to this Gregg Berhalter?

    "Gregg has brought order to our defensive game and has good discipline in the squad, but unfortunately we have not seen good enough dividends in the offense," Hammarby chairman Kent Hertzell told the club website. "Therefore, we chose to terminate cooperation with Gregg. We believe that we need to get a new force and new voice on the team."


    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2013...g-berhalter-manager-citing-teams-lack-offense
     
    bct81, Burr, neems and 1 other person repped this.
  12. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member

    May 31, 2016
  13. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will anyone from the press ask real questions after this shit?
     
  14. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Worst part is we will luck our way to the semis and it will be treated as Gregg bouncing back from two poor friendlies.
     
    Deadtigers, jjmack, wixson7 and 8 others repped this.
  15. morrissey

    morrissey Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    West Los Angeles, Calif
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    No kidding. Bradley and Klinsmann made sure to stabilize the backline and get us organized early in their cycles before trying to implement their pet tactical tweaks. Klinsmann couldn’t implement a possession style with better players all over the pitch.

    Berhalter is trying to skip steps with inferior tools.

    At this point we should be defensively sound and use our athleticism to play on the break.
     
    Deadtigers, 50/50 Ball, DHC1 and 2 others repped this.
  17. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Youtube: Jimmy Dore, Secular Talk
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #17 thedukeofsoccer, Jun 9, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
    We just had that, and he ran the team in the ground over time. The arrow didn't point up, instead it pointed way down. Subsequent managers were tasked at picking up the pieces, and they were way over their heads given their recent performances on the club level, plus there were conflicts of interest, so the pieces are still being picked up.

    Some people keep going back and forth with these small-minded scapegoats and supposed solutions that are in no way backed by empiricism and logic. Until personnel are evaluated based on their own merits, instead of superficial associations, and some myopic goal, this program will continue to massively underachieve. That will take functional front office in USS, which I don't know if we'll ever achieve unless there's a USSeperation.
     
    bct81 and FLSoccerGran repped this.
  18. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not commenting on you, but for everyone who still thinks that advancing in the GC is our birth-right, well . . . so was qualifying for the World Cup. I don’t think we think enough about the unthinkable. No one is gong to do us the kind of favor we did Mexico.
     
    Deadtigers and FLSoccerGran repped this.
  19. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    The next time that an MLS booster uses the phrase "knows the American player pool" remember this is what they mean.
     
  20. mace

    mace Member

    Chicago Fire
    United States
    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    These last two games were shockingly horrible for the US MNT. Embarrassing. So many basic errors, so disjointed. Is it poor coaching or something else? The more I painfully watch, the more I think the coaching staff does not understand how to coach a pool of players in a best fit system. I mean, best fit for resources available, and not best fit to some pre-made per tactical plan. We officially suck right now.
     
  21. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Have burned a year and a half — wasted — after not qualifying. This looks worse than where we started and as I pointed out we played VEN to a tie right before Couva.
     
    zhe fulano, xbhaskarx, Gacm32 and 7 others repped this.
  22. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can see that our players play a lot slower, and are not nearly as quick as other team's players. And it's not merely foot speed/quickness, it's speed of thought, too. Speed of thought is the real killer.
     
    jackiesdad, Bajoro, adam tash and 10 others repped this.
  23. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    The best we’ll get are open ended questions designed to let Berhalter talk as opposed to asking questions designed to get constructive responses.
     
  24. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Flat out two awful performances where you saw bad touches, the US flopping hoping for fouls, and a lot of miscommunication on the back end. That is unacceptable and some player selections that look especially awful after these two games.

    Are there some things that can be built on? Yes. Are there some players that showed themselves well? Few and far between but guys like Lima, Holmes, and Boyd showed things that I think merit more looks. But again the gold cup should not be where we are looking for for people to be a part of the team. At the very least this is where most accurately predicted wasting a year on the coaching search would cost us.

    At this point you hope for the Gold Cup adding Bradley, Adams, and Pulisic as well as McKennie and a few.others having their legs under them will make a difference. But after this tournament I think you see a few people out of the pool for now
     
    Beerking and FLSoccerGran repped this.
  25. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GGG's job absolutely has to be on the line at Gold Cup. And I am not talking about just getting out of the group. If they continue to play this pathetic excuse for soccer then he needs to go. Period.
     

Share This Page