Post-match: USA vs Mexico Gold Cup final 7/7/19

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by tomásbernal, Jul 7, 2019.

  1. Mskdevil22

    Mskdevil22 New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jun 7, 2019
    Once again this will not be the team that will participate in world cup qualifiers. The bigger question is will GB select the proper players from our 20s and 17s. This was not in my opinion our Best team. I hope that the marker GB uses is our European players. Pulisic is pure class, he is clearly our best along with Mckinnie. Until the next match will shall see.
     
  2. Cannons

    Cannons Member+

    May 16, 2005
    I am 100% sure GB will learn nothing and will make no significant changes. Next time out will look just like this time with maybe Morris disappearing. This is the part that scares me the most. GB is sure hes right and will change nothing. We will not qualify, again, with teams like this
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, it’s not ok. Ranting and raving about how everyone sucks except the pets like WM is not analysis. That’s my point. As bad as Bradley was, and he was bad, he didn’t cost us the goal. Weston did.

    One of the first 10 posts was there’s no positives. Really? How could anyone watch this game and not be happy with the defense?
     
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  4. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who was the main person at fault for the goal? I thought that Steffen had a Tim Howard out-of-position-no-way-I'm-getting-that-ball moment, personally. Otherwise, the goal was the result of a team effort (on both teams' part) and a great lay-off.
     
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  5. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley is done, no more call ups for him
     
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  6. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Moving forward...

    A team
    GK Steffen
    RB Yedlin
    CB Brooks
    CB Long
    LB Lima
    DM Adams
    M8 McKennie
    10 Pulisic
    RW Boyd
    FW Altidore
    LW Weah

    B team
    GK Horvath
    RB Cannon
    CB Miazga
    CB Zimmerman
    LB Ream
    DM Bradley
    M8 Roldan
    10 Pomykal
    RW Arriola
    FW Sargent
    LW Holmes

    C team:
    GK Johnson
    RB Dest
    CB Carter-Vickers
    CB M. Robinson
    LB A. Robinson
    DM Morales
    MF Nagbe
    10 Lletget
    RW Morris
    FW Soto
    LW Amon

    Watching:
    Gloster
    Richards
    trusty
    Araujo
    Mihailovic
    Bassett
    Mendez
    Lewis

    Break glass in case of emergency:
    Lovitz
    Trapp
    Baird
    Zardes
     
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  7. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    So... just got back from the game. Got drenched in (celebratory) beer..

    Seeing what I saw and seeing what people are posting is kind of hilarious. McKennie had a stinker out there. He was sloppy as hell all night and didn't do much on offense.

    Long was very good and pretty much our best player on the night.

    Jozy was wasteful, dangerous early, but you HAVE to finish that. Zardes was fine in his limited minutes though I was closer to Steffen in the second half so had to see what was going on in the scrambles in the box.

    Morris was awful. Cannon was decent but got caught upfield a few too many times.

    Arriola was what you'd expect. Pulisic could have been better on the night.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, every post of yours I see reminds me that you wrote that Bradley was quickly fired with Egypt, Staebak, and le Havre.

    That’s a ******** up you can’t recover from, not for a long, long time.
     
  9. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Had Bradley decided to slip into 1st gear like McKennie did on Dos Santos—holy crap this board would have exploded.
     
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  10. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think your almost there on the Pizzaro switch. Except it wasn’t specifically Ream. Pizzaro was occupying that space right where Arriola should have been in defense and ultimately made Bradley have to provide cover out of position.
     
  11. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mckennie makes a mistakes but he doesn't get abused for entire stretches of a game.Btw, games aren't 45 minutes, Egg got worked in the coaching department.
     
  12. Axldru

    Axldru Member

    Jun 17, 2006
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Except we don’t have the talent to compete with Mexico. Look at the rosters and compare the club teams. Pulisic and McKinney are the only players we have that would make Mexico’s roster.
     
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  13. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    Nobody is saying that everyone sucks except the “pets” but don’t let that stop you from raging at nothing. :)
     
  14. Mskdevil22

    Mskdevil22 New Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jun 7, 2019
    Where is Carter- Vickers, Danny Williams. Eric Lujui.
     
  15. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, he started until he stunk.

    Which seems more likely, mr. Tinfoil?
     
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  16. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it was weird. It's like he got stuck in quicksand and couldn't make a move for the ball. It was the first thing I noticed as the goal was being scored.
     
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  17. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When our coach throws away a game because of his pets, that should grab the headlines. And if you think Weston was primarily at fault for the goal, then I standby by my statement that you’re part of the problem. He was cleaning up Bradley’s messes all game long. He had some mistakes, but Bradley was absolutely horrific and got roasted on the goal.
     
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  18. ChambersWI

    ChambersWI Member+

    Nov 10, 2010
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Eh... I'm sure he will have his pets but to say there wont be changes is a bit unfair. Of course you have to think a out guys that were not available due to injury like Adams,Yedlin, Holmes, and Lleget (who had been the guy Greg relied on for offense off the bench his first couple camps). But if guys like Sargent and Weah get consistent time and produce you cant ignore them... same for a guy like Pomykal developing
     
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  19. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    McKennie casually jogging behind an accelerating Dos Santos was probably the worst. Ream could of put in a tackle on Jimenez.
     
  20. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    There are other players that “stunk” and didn’t get the boot
     
  21. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Disappointing result. In the second half when the US needed to adjust, Berhalter made the wrong choices.

    You have to be willing to take a risk with a new attacking player (Boyd). You have to make a 2nd striker available on the bench. And when the match is breaking down in the last 15 minutes, sacrifice Ream or Bradley for an attacking player, not field symmetry (Lovitz as the 3rd sub).

    Berhalter prized the system over the situation.
     
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  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. That’s what’s so funny here.
     
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  23. Tea Men Tom

    Tea Men Tom Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    The result didn't bother me as much as a sold out stadium that was 90% Mexican fans. The program has fallen off the radar and for that I blame US Soccer and our players. Overall the team competed tonight but they've got a long, long way to go.

    The men's team program has regressed and taken fan interest with it.
     
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  24. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the back:

    Steffen was okay. He isn't going to do anything spectacular but not bad.

    Ream, Miazga, Long, Cannon were pretty good. No real problems and Cannon probably attracted attention from Europe.

    Mike Bradley: disasterously bad. Slow, can't win a tackle, trails the play, always a half step late. He used to be good. Why he continues to play is just a mystery.

    Arriola-McKinnie-Morris: Meh. Hard working group. Didn't lose the game for us. They have to spend too much time babysitting Mikey.

    Pulisic: Pure class. He must wonder what fresh hell he is being introduced to.
    Altidore: Did well at what he does.

    Subs: Absolute disaster. Lovitz being the firing offense.
    Coaching: Doesn't appear to be any.
     
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  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Watch the replay.
     
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  26. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are both bad.

    Eric Lujui sounds like a promising player.
     
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