I think what you'll find is that people here have an agenda and when real life doesn't fit their agenda, they need a scapegoat. The guys who were challenged "athletically" like everybody says about Trapp, were actually Acosta, Yedlin, Brooks,Green and Wood. England was blowing by them like a hair dryer.
Interesting to look at this as a 2 dmid set up - so where was the the 2nd dmid on the first and 2nd goals?
We have never seen Adams and McKennie to know if there is world domination potential. 13 months, 10 games, never seen it. We have seen Trapp as a Lone 6 many times (over 700'). Whatever Trapp has been, he hasn't been so good as to not try anything else during a time when we are trying everything, including 18 yr old PSG youth players, Bremen U23 players, 47 players in the 10 positions around Trapp. In all this time, we should have seen a McKennie/Adams double pivot tried. If people are upset at that good. The better question would be, why isn't everyone upset? We've basically wasted 13 months and Berhalter hasn't even been hired yet.
Well, you could watch Adams with Davis in a double pivot earlier this year against Chivas and see him lose a chance at the CCL Trophy. You could watch how McKennie plays the 6 and realize that he doesn't play very well, probably because he doesn't want to play the 6. People around here confuse a lot of cowboy-ing at the 8 with playing aces at the 6 position. These are two completely different positions. Why would we want to chain two of our best 8's to the 6 position? That's so dumb I don't know what to say.
I don't think anyone is making the point that Trapp is a good DM. I think the point is that he's the least terrible of all our available DMs. And that's a solid point. Of course as fans we don't want to give up and much rather say "X is better" until X plays and proves he's not, then we move on to Y, to Z, and back to A.
Brilliant analysis! Adams has had one bad play all year. One. So, let's use that play to color him until he retires. Who knows what Schalke are trying to do. It is awful to watch. But McKennie played a very good double pivot for them last year when they were good. Continue to assign players numbers based on a system that was devised before the W-M formation was invented. I wish I had your rose colored glasses. I'm tired of watching the failure you can't see. Maybe it wouldn't work, but let's see. What do we have to lose? Adams as the 6, McKennie as the 8 in possession and both back in front of the back 4 in defense. Wow, it is how just about every club in the world plays. They all must be "dumb" and your the genius. Magnificent ego.
What is there to support the view that Trapp is the 'least terrible' of available DMs? Who else has gotten an opportunity there? Danny Williams arguably had the best performance in the position.
I mostly agree. Try Adams and McKennie out against Italy. I think the Trapp comments have went way beyond just wanting to give other players some games. I think many are being unfairly harsh in their criticism of him because he's a 25 year old in MLS who doesn't play a flashy game. I don't think I've seen anyone state he should be a lock starter all cycle. Some of us think he is the best current option at his position. I don't think its such an outrageous suggestion.
I also thought last year's double pivot at Schalke was superior to this year's catch as catch can formation. In the first match back in the Bund after McKennie's winning goal in the Champion's League, he started the match up front before a halftime switch.
From what I read, Weah hasn't been playing for the PSG youth for months. I bet he tears it up on loan somewhere come winter.
Miazga has been benched, or worse, by a highly respected manager who knows something about talent and prospects. That is NOT nothing in terms of other coaches or organizations looking at Miazga. Some of the stuff people come up with here....
Players get benched, even by respected coaches, yet move on to successful careers. The idiocy posters come up with here. The season isn't even half over; get a grip.
No, let it color him til it doesn't. He was barely 18 I reckon. What am I supposed to do? Say oh let's pretend he's 23 already? He is what he is. I don't get people around here, I really don't. McKennie never played a good "double pivot" with Schalke. He was always best as a mid in the 3142 with Meyer at the "1" and Wes next to Goretzka in cmid with a couple of wingers. Adams at the 6 is incredibly stupid when you look at his contribution to Rbulls playing as a free 8 with Davis at the 6. Ffs, go to opta stats and look at Adams' distribution v. Columbus https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/m...w-york-red-bulls-vs-columbus-crew-sc/boxscore Scroll down and let it load then check off the colored boxes except Adams and Distribution. Does that look like a dmid to you? C'mon, that's insane.
I get it. The US looked like a rec side against England because Trapp can't play defense and our continued offensive impotence is largely attributable to his defensive deficiency. Wow I've come to expect better from you Jond.
Dwil was so bad for Reading in the Championship at the 6 that they moved him to CAM. When he graduated to EPL he got benched. He's ok but he doesn't have Trapp's passing. He's dull as a butter knife.
Next thing you'll be telling us that his "future European prospects' have been enhanced by his no longer making the game day squad. If you were prospecting for a future player, would you begin by scouting someone who doesn't even make the lineup card?
Agree. I expected better from Jond. Come up with somebody who can play better. Canouse. Fine. He was injured all year, bring him to Jan camp, give Trapp one game then give Canouse one game, we'll compare and move on. Now that's a plan. Saying Adams should play the 6 when he has been tearing up the MLS at free 8 is just idiotic, imo. Play Adams at the 6 and Green at the 10? What are people looking at?
Miazga isn't a 'future European prospect'. He has a track record. And again, the season isn't even half over.
Now this is a bit more serious: https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2018/nantes-are-trying-to-rid-of-matt-miazga/ I hope this isn't due to some Freddy Adu/Brek Shea-style bs on Miazga's part. There's a world of difference between We have our own young guys and would like to save some money vs This punk has a shite attitude and we want him out!!
I posted the original report, in French, from One Football, translated in the Miazga thread. When neither team wants you, it's bad. Nantes want to send him back, Chelsea refuses to get him back. Who knows why. Beyond that, anyone who's watched Miazga in Europe knows he's a limited defender whose best attribute in the Netherlands, where defending is always iffy, was that he could add himself to the attack and try the header. He's basically Goodson with a bit better ball control, and does not belong in a Top 5 league.
Welp, Mckennie has left camp with a slight knock. So another wasted ppportunity by Sarachan. At least Trapp gets to finish as a starter.