Post-match: USA v Panama - Gold Cup - 6/26

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by tbonepat11, Jun 26, 2019.

  1. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, that's 2 hours of my life I will never get back.

    The drop down in quality of the entire midfield from our starters, resulted in an absolutely hamstrung offense.

    Neither the left-wing nor the left fullback could make a cross to save his life.

    Why is Omar here? He's pretty much the only guy that gave up a chance.

    Ironically, we have an experienced play-by-play guy and 4 US internationals in the broadcast crew, and it's the English gal that comes closest to calling rubbish, rubbish. There is clearly an agenda here...

    Yeah I know, 11 changes, but it doesn't say much for our depth to throw that performance out there.
     
  2. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    The first part he was speaking the truth.

    The second, he tried to stay out of trouble because he said something he shouldn't have. He's going to receive a call from the Federation in the morning.
     
  3. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    That was one of the ugliest matches the US has ever won. That kind of performance gets you clobbered almost anywhere but in CONCACAF.

    We should strive to be a lot better than this and not accept poor play even if it wins.

    We cannot be this bad and respect ourselves.
     
  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When we failed to qualify for a World Cup. The young talent is great, but the players that are supposed to be in their prime are as bad as they've been in a long time.
     
  5. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We got the job done.

    [x] Rotated lineup
    [x] No goals conceded
    [x] No injuries
    [x] No yellow cards
    [x] Possessed much of the ball
    [x] Bonus: Scored 1 goal

    Berhalter and his team have managed this tournament perfectly. Now to win against Curacao with as little effort as possible, as the semi-final is only 2 days later.
     
  6. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Oh that day....well, you better make some changes at the top.
     
  7. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This MLS level talent is just difficult to watch. I can't think of a single player that needs to start from this lot. Forward is the only position we are inept at producing that Altidore and Zardes are allowed to see the field.
     
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  8. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fixed
     
  9. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Morris
    Did you just start watching this year? That’s not even in the top 25 of ugliest matches we’ve ever won.
     
  10. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    So I missed this game. Was it worth it?
     
  11. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    No! Whatever you were doing, short of root canal, was better spent, and root canal would be about dead even.
     
  12. ClappinJonny99

    Borussia Dortmund, Liverpool, DC United
    United States
    Jun 15, 2019
    I agreed with Landon about the fact that Jozy might’ve scored more in the first two games. He is still better than Zardes. This game showed how wide of a gap there is between McKinnie, Boyd, Pulisic, Bradley, and Arriola on one side and Roldan, Trapp, Mihailovic, Lewis, and Morris in terms of offensive creativity, passing, and touch. I think if Altidore has that behind him he would have buried a few.
     
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  13. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it’s likely because he see Brooks as first choice LCB. And Long who’s first choice RCB as second choice LCB. So he wants to see Miazga who will battle for RCB there. Pure 100% speculation but it’s the only thing I can think of.
     
  14. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seriously, no.
     
  15. nbarbour

    nbarbour Member+

    Jun 19, 2006
    Washington DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for saving me the time of typing out my analysis. You didn’t put a foot wrong here. I’m still nodding.
     
  16. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Everything I saw today reinforced my views on player quality -- we don't have a full XI yet and most of the backups are a substantial dropoff from the starters.

    I'm not sure how much farther Roldan's stock can drop, but not winning a single duel in the midfield (or that's what it felt like) is a good effort to do so.

    When so much of your buildup involves DM, Roldan and Johnathon Lewis, I'm not sure you can evaluate much.

    Despite that, we had some good chances and mostly kept Panama B from doing anything.

    Right coaching choice, I think. But not nearly as interesting as watching the A squad gain cohesion.

    I wonder if we will get the full A squad against Curacao or whether he will press his luck?
     
  17. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like the joke of an attempt on 21st minute? That was really, really poor.
     
  18. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Oddly enough, I have been suffering from a toothache all day. And I will be seeing a dentist on Friday for treatment and a possible root canal, during the USWNT game.

    Are you spying on my thoughts? :cautious:
     
  19. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    We were very lucky today that the referee was incompetent. Omar could have easily had a red card for an elbow early in the match and later, I think it was Trapp, came in studs up into the knee of a Panama player that absolutely was a red almost anywhere else except CONCACAF and even here it is a red a lot of the time.

    We do not need to play dirty to win but we choose to because we are poorly trained and poorly coached and a lot of our players come from leagues like the MLS where thuggery is actually rewarded.
     
  20. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    On Roldan- when he first suited up for the USMNT I thought he had the potential to develop into a reliable 2nd choice MF. It seems now that with every passing game he has struggled more. Tonight might have been his nadir. He has no quickness, lacks strength and is not technically dynamic enough to make up for his shortcomings.
     
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  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    The Good : We finished with ZERO goals against. Not since 2007 we manage that at the group stage. Yes, the field was expanded and the quality dropped a bit, but still it's a good thing. This game, Morris looked useful in the first half, after starting. That's rare from him in the NT.

    The Bad : Jozy scored a slow bicycle kick, but otherwise wasted several chances. That our #1 striker is between him and Zardes is worrisome, as is the fact that our #5 CB seems to be Gonzo. Mihailovic is not international quality, and Roldan may barely be.

    The Ugly : Even though we finished with 9 points and +11 GD, no goals conceded, we're still a hard to watch team. It requires dedication not to doze off. It's a practical style of soccer, following the book, relying on speed and strength, with far too many bad passes.

    Today there was no sequence like the one leading to the 2-0 against Trinidad. We did just enough, keeping our cards close to our chest. So has done Panama.
     
  22. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which shows that Berhalter has made the right lineup decisions in all 3 games.
     
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  23. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m happy Jozy was able to shake more rust off and get his goal.

    I’m surprised that Pulisic and Boyd didn’t create more in the limited time. But, we were in game management mode.

    Always love clean sheets.

    Still need decide who is going to lead in central midfield.
     
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  24. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fernando Fiore is amazing at shutting up the optimism.
     
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  25. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    The Mickey Mouse Club or The breakfast Club
    May 4, 2002
    Limbo
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Of course. I am in the NSA and I use all the latest techniques. Bet you did not know that we can watch you by reversing the screen of your TV. That is it sends back to us at the same time you are watching. Even turning it off does not stop the reverse feed.

    You better stop what you are doing, NOW or we will post it to YouTube.
     
  26. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    For all the complaints about Fox cheerleading, El Presidente bringing some brutal honesty to the postgame show.
     
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