USA, Canada, and Mexico to Submit Unified Bid For World Cup

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by Sebsasour, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    60 games will be in the US with Canada and Mexico both getting 10.

    Seems a bit odd, but I'll take it as a US fan.
     
  2. coolsoccerboots

    coolsoccerboots New Member

    DC UNITED
    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Was pissed when I first heard we would have to cohost it, but now I'm totally fine with it. Especially given that we get all the games from the quarter finals onwards.
     
  3. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    Doesn't make sense and I hope they don't pick a bid with three hosts. That is three automatic spots they have to give. It would make concacaf wcq interesting
     
  4. Unimane

    Unimane Member+

    Jul 28, 2009
    Nashville
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    United States
    I don't like the three bids, either, but, if they are going with 48 teams and 6 from CONCACAF, then Mexico and the USA have a mere formality for qualification.
     
  5. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    Who else will host it with Europe and Asia being ineligible, and South America likely holding out for that 100 anniversary Uruguay/Argentina bid in 2030? Your other options are Africa and Oceania. The US and Mexico would have likely been competing against each other, so this was probably just bet hedging on their part. Not sure why Canada was able to tag along though
     
  6. Unimane

    Unimane Member+

    Jul 28, 2009
    Nashville
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    United States
    Could Mexico handle the expanded tournament on their own?
     
  7. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    The USA and Mexico could both host on their own. Besides fifa doesn't give a damn who could actually host (Qatar) they might pick another host anyway. In terms of travel this bid is awful.

    Africa has a few countries that could host it by themselves. I have been very impressed with the stadium quality in the African cup of nations
     
  8. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    They could, but they'd probably not risk it.

    Who in Africa has the infrastructure that can keep up with the us for a 48 team tournament? No one has bid yet either (though there's still time)
     
  9. slaminsams

    slaminsams Member+

    Mar 22, 2010
    The response in Mexico is rightfully not very pleased. I mean as it stands there won't be ko games in Mexico this isn't evenly balanced in how it will be played as is normally the case when countries host together this is just a crap bid for Mexico. Canada getting an automatic bid also a turnoff. What is the upside to this as opposed to just a USA bid
     
  10. zamedo1987

    zamedo1987 Member

    Bayern Munich
    Costa Rica
    Aug 22, 2007
    Club:
    Alianza Lima
    Country:
    Peru
    First thing in my mind when I heard about this bid was the qualification process.

    It will be boring as hell!! If US, Canada and Mexico qualify automatically, we'd only have 4 teams strong enough to make the qualifications interesting: Costa Rica, Honduras, Panama and Trinidad & Tobago. Maybe Jamaica as well.

    Also, wouldn't the Concacaf lose money for not having official matches that include US and Mexico? what about the TV channels? Sponsors? They all lose money. Incomes from friendlies are not the same.

    Doesn't make sense to me.
     
  11. Unimane

    Unimane Member+

    Jul 28, 2009
    Nashville
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Country:
    United States
    If I were Mexico, I would say, thanks, but no thanks, then wait for the next cycle to come around for the Cup. It might be 2044 or something, but it's better than getting some token games and not having a full Cup for 60-80 years.
     
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  12. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Country:
    Croatia
    #12 dinamo_zagreb, Apr 12, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2017
    Algeria and Morocco could host it together, I see no other options there at the moment. Other countries have the people and big cities, but absolutely no infrastructure. Unstable situation (in the region) is their biggest issue though.
     
  13. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    I would actually love to see a Morocco World Cup, but unless they're willing to pony up a ton of bribe money, it's coming to the US
     
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  14. coolsoccerboots

    coolsoccerboots New Member

    DC UNITED
    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Would be fun to see the US, Mexico and Canada play a 4 games a piece home and away series instead of qualifiers.
     
  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    The reason the US had to cohost is because their chance at winning it on their own was average at best. They needed Canada and Mexico to make the bid bulletproof.
     
  16. SJJ

    SJJ Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Royal Oak, MI, USA
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    Country:
    United States
    Mexico pulled out of the last bidding process, so I doubt that they would have wanted this one themselves, either.

    So again, the way I see this, let's say that groups A and B could be hosted in Mexico, groups C and D hosted in Canada, and groups E to P in USA. (Geez, we would be all the way up to group P?) So for Mexico, they would have six first-round games, the two cross-over games between A and B (round of 32), the one R-16 between those two, and one other R-16 game. (Supposedly, from two groups hosted in Texas or Southern California.) Similar for Canada, with their one extra game being from groups hosted in northern USA.

    But just to say, in this scenario, I wouldn't want to be a team to go USA-MEX-USA, or USA-CAN-USA.
     
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  17. coolsoccerboots

    coolsoccerboots New Member

    DC UNITED
    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Who would have won it over the US?
     
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    Who knows. Morocco? Oceania? The true question is why didn't the US submit a solo bid?
     
  19. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    Pretty simple, bet hedging. Our biggest competition would be have been Mexico so why risk losing it?
     
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  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    or Canada
     
  21. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Country:
    United States
    That one is weird to me
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Country:
    Canada
    Any country can solo host if they want too, doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
     
  23. jabbaahabbaa

    jabbaahabbaa New Member

    Toronto FC
    Canada
    May 12, 2017
    It is strange that the U.S. did not bid solo. I wonder if in the new 48 team world, joint bids will be all the rage.
     

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