US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

its unavoidable the debate over pay/earned/identity etc is all part of the puzzle.

the role of the ussf is to foster the growth of the sport in the us.

the first question should be...is part of that 'growth' making a hand full of a men/women millionaires? should players instead keep off of their rights and be allowed to sell whatever/whenever and in turn not get anymore then pennies from the ussf. should the revenue for games/tournaments go to those players specifically or be split among other groups i.e. ynt and men/women full nt groups.

should national team players get anything more then a hefty stipend with each match they play in? should the national teams be paid like they are a separate team or should in be a opportunity to play for the national teams and just allow players to cash in accordingly.

 

child support

 

What time period do you have in mind? I'm thinking from ancient Greece/Rome to now, how about you?

Violent crime tends to be judged more severely than non-violent crime, and as you say below, men generally commit more violent crimes.

Please pass along a link to the CDC study you're quoting. And the study below...

Where do you get the idea that there were twice as many women "back then" (whenever then was)? Have you ever checked on what the death rate from childbirth was before modern medicine? And why would you think that women were safer in any other way "back then"?

History of women's right to own property in the US, says Wikipedia -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married_Women's_Property_Acts_in_the_United_States

There's a nice book just that came out, https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1419729071/ref=nosim/0sil8, that you should read.
I'm not sure that much of it is new news tho', it's been known for decades that drugs aren't tested on women, that cars aren't designed for women. The news that pregnant women sit too close to the airbags in their cars came out when I was pregnant with my younger child and he's 22 yo now.

Glad we finally agree, what was all the other stuff you said then?

 

Y’all, this thread is going to get closed if we keep talking about abortion and sentencing.

 

63% longer sentences and twice as likely to go to jail for SAME CRIME AND PRIORS. That's whatever type of crime, including violent.

You are in a cult. I see that perpetually, any time I relay that stat, and somebody still finds a way to rationalize it to maintain that enormous advantage of lack of accountability/consideration. How do you even have an honest discourse with a person like that. You don't. You should have said thanks for the enlightenment or you could have at least said that's just one area. You being in denial about it is really telling because it's a powerful argument modern feminism is bunk.

So I'm not going to waste any more time and energy on you going point by point if you ignore facts, and you ignored many of my other points. Some people are just tfg - too far gone. It doesn't matter how much evidence and logic you provide them they'll just circle back to their ideology out of narcissism.

 

You two just need to get a room. This kind of stuff is only talked about absolutely everywhere and by everyone. It doesn't have to be in this thread.

 

It was brought up by her. I'm not obligated to let it go, especially with the social science on my side. And it seems like a pertinent place for the discussion when it's another false accusation of discrimination trying to capitalize on the political climate.

You can't realistically avoid politics wherever you go because it intertwines almost every aspect of our lives. Here you could just move on to the next post though if you're so inclined to try.

 

Did I mention how insufferable you Duke fans are this time of year?

 

Not a Duke fan. Just a Duke. Us royalty can be insufferable in our pomposity. But in the case I was just delivering the hard truth, which is always going to be insufferable to some. Still, somebody has to do it. Wish I didn't have to do the dirty work and could just sip wine from my chalice, but it appears the messenger was off in the latrine doing his own dirty work. So hey, don't shoot this messenger.

 

When I last saw this thread, it was all a'fire as to inequities in pay arising from inequities in revenues derived and other scintillating hypo-capital pseudo-investment quasi-social inter-medium babble-blather..... I come back to a scene from The Game of Thrones.... what happened?

 

I was talking about Duke basketball. superdave is a titanic fan.

 

Nah, Superdave is more a fan of the Iceberg.....

 

So he's a North Carolina fan?

 

Shorter -- ask for basis of your quoted statistics, and you stomp off in a huff.

 

the us u20s would score more than 13 on thailand lol

 

Also scored more than England did at the 2006, 2010 and 2014 World Cups combined. Should Alex Morgan get paid more than Wayne Rooney?

 

I'm guessing that's an asshole opinion piece and not the editorial position of CNN.

 

They don't seem to realize the scoreline simultaneously undermines the notion of the women's game being as worthy as the men's.

If they wanted to prove it was just as competitive as the men's game they probably should've sandbagged it a bit.

 

That headline has as much credibility as me saying I have scored more Goals on Xbox in the World Cup than both the US Men and women's teams combined.

 

Those lines are blurred more and more in contemporary media.

 

I led Boston College to 4 consecutive national championships in dynasty mode in NCAA Football 07. I demand to be paid accordingly. EQUALITY!!

 

Can anyone put together the amount of revenue generated by year from 2010 to 2019? I honestly tried but I am very confused.

 

I'm really curious about the why in this issue, as in why are people so worried about the women getting a few more bucks? The fed has a healthy bank account and the men already make plenty of money, they will not be neglected or sent to the poor house. It's like when people get pissed because someone else has a good job and instead of thinking they should have a good job too, they want to see the other person lose theirs.