US women soccer players want equal pay to US men's team.

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  1. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    They get health insurance like a normal person would from the ussf the insurance that covers an injury during a match is different.

    The marketing stuff is interesting because they haven't even provided some form of bad math to show they aren't being treated fairly.

    Coaching salaries is bad because its solely based on the market. Bonuses however can be done differently.
     
  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I'd still like to see a comprehensive plan for what "equal" looks like.

    You guys (addressing the USWNT) want <nebulous idea>, you should define what you think that <nebulous idea> means.
     
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  3. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read the first part of the letter, and it was so vague as to be meaningless, so I stopped reading. Did it get any better?

    The women have been very, very public on their general aims, but absent on the specifics. There is absolutely no meat on their public pronouncements.

    I wonder if they are any different in private.
     
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  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I pretty much did the same thing. I sort of skipped around. The end was very much like the beginning: generalities, no specifics.
     
  5. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They would be foolish to hamstring their attorneys by making any specific demands in public.

    Look at the way it was pointed out that Morgan's comments on Victory Tour admission fees contradicted the lawyers' allegations in the lawsuit....
     
  6. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Have the lawyers write it.
     
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  7. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trust me, the lawyers already wrote that statement.

    There is no way with Mediation pending, that you get a specific public request from any lawyer that knows what they are doing.
     
  8. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Then maybe the players should stop very publicly misleading the public.
     
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  9. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've given you a lawyer's opinion on public negotiations.

    But you need to be talking to a public relations guy...
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if they do this because they think it will help them, or they do it because it makes them feel good, or because they're famous people and that's just the kind of thing famous people do.
     
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  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    A little from column A... etc.
     
  12. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Step 1: Collect Underwear
    Step 2: ???
    Step 3: Profit.

    Clear as mud.

    We just have to rest assure that the women aren't being paid fairly, it is only because they are women and they need more.
     
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  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They do use equal pay, not similar pay or equitable pay anymore, maybe they are falling for their own PR.

     
  14. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Give the women exactly what they want. The USSF pays nothing towards their club salary. The USSF pays a per diem when called up, and a per game amount. No one has tenure, or guarantees, or pregnancy leave pay, or a special cut of anything that men do not get.
    Sometimes, in this mad world, it is best to let madness reap its own reward.
     
  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2965 ceezmad, Aug 19, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 19, 2019
    Yes, that is what they seem to want, even if they lose out in a cycle, over most cycles they would get more money.

    With FIFA going to 40 teams, the chance of the USA not making the WC is even smaller than before, we may miss 2022 since it is still the same as last cycle, but after that, the USMNT should be pretty solid in making the WC.

    I do not know how a court will rule on pooling the money, I assume they would rule against it, but I do not know.
     
  16. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "I want to have exactly what you have, but I want more than what you have !". That's a credo to live by , alright.
     
  17. HouseofCards

    HouseofCards Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    Can you source that for me?
     
  18. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    no its all over the net just google it or search on twitter it will come right up.
     
  19. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What part? the FIFA going to 40?

    The 2022 WC being played in Qatar?

    The request to pool the money?
     
  20. HouseofCards

    HouseofCards Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    All of it.
     
  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    48
     
  22. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    Dude it's called google....type it in and click search.
     
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  23. HouseofCards

    HouseofCards Member

    Nov 26, 2012
    If he's going to ask dumb questions, I will respond in kind. I have read just about everything out there on this, and other than conjecture, I have yet to see where they USWNT have said they want to pool WC money and split it, so if you can find a genuine source that has that information, I would genuinely be interested in reading it.
     
  24. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    He didn't ask a dumb question you did. Source that
     
  25. celito

    celito Moderator
    Staff Member

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    "Everyone's asking what's next and what we want to come all of this – it's to stop having the conversation about equal pay and are we worth it," Rapinoe said.

    "What are we going to do about it? Gianni, what are we going to do about it? Carlos [Cordeiro, USFF president], what are we going to do about it? Everyone. It's time to sit down with everyone and really get to work.


    While not asking directly and maybe not asking on the lawsuit, you can argue she is inferring it.
     

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