Rumor: US Soccer/MLS TV Deal

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by bye_urn, May 12, 2014.

  1. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Ditto. Best $60 a year I've spent (and this year it was 10% off for returning subscribers).
     
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  2. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    This is a really fair assessment. I'll chime in and say that his call today was better than in the past, and that I think he's slowly, slowly improving, but not at the kind of rate you'd expect from a guy who's going to be the voice of the league here in the US.

    FOX's production overall, though, still seems like a glossy veneer over a halfassed effort. They need to start using their whole ass; they just bid all that money for MLS and US games; they could stand to learn a lot from NBC. Specifically, that you can't use the NFL formula and expect it to work with non-casual fans.
     
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  3. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Yeah it was a little better. Unfortunately, every time he corrects one flaw, he adds another (like adding the "straight away" thing in the past 2 games he's called, for instance, but fixing some others). He's also poor with pronunciation of some of the players which is one of those mistakes that can really highlight an analysts lack of familiarity with the players and make him sound worse than he is.

    It isn't completely awful, like some of the shit I've heard in other broadcasts - like this week watching the Canadian Championship analyst call the GK a "goaltender" like it was a 1980s U.S. broadcast - but still, for such a big network who has made such an investment, they can do better.
     
  4. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FOX is terrible covering soccer. Enjoy MLS games in SD on FOX Sports 2. I do not think ratings will increase.
     
  5. Rick Shaw

    Rick Shaw Member

    Feb 25, 2009
    Villahermosa, México
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone know how the money is split up between MLS and U.S. Soccer? Obviously the lion's share goes to MLS due to the number of games, but I'm interested to know how much of that money ends up in U.S. Soccer coffers. I couldn't find the details in any of the articles I have read so far.
     
  6. Editor In Chimp

    Editor In Chimp Member+

    Sep 7, 2008
    "They can do better" is the perfect summary of Fox's current level of coverage.
     
  7. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @Rick Shaw You can't find those numbers because they are not officially released.

    The best we can do is to use some financial forensics on the US Soccer Annual financial report from last year and extropolate that forward for a rough estimate of the break down of the money.

    We did this back in January in the MLS TV thread.

    After crunching the numbers and making some agreed upon estimates, we came out with roughly 80% goes to MLS the rest goes to SUM and US Soccer.

    The SUM equation has been further complicated by the fact that SUM sold off 25% of the company to Provudence Partners, so in some form they are going to take a cut of the deal.

    While it is most certainly not exactly right, assuming 80% comes into MLS will put you in the right ball park.

    One note, I would not assume that the money will 100% go into the salary cap. I think it will be spread around.
     
  8. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They said in the press conference that FS1 would be the primary channel. The big wig representing Fox said FS2 would only be employed during a rare conflict and used the US Open tournament as an example.

    We are expecting around 5 or less of the 34 games will be on FS2 but won't know for sure until the schedule is released.

    FS2 has been in HD since the day it launched on Direct TV.
     
  9. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many of us who follow this in depth think that Fox will go with John Strong, who is the current voice of MLS on NBCSN and does a very good job. He might be the best American born soccer announcer ever and he is only 28.

    He already works for Fox on other soccer properties and seeing he won't be needed on NBC next year, it is an easy transition.

    During the press conference announcing the deal, the Fox big wig was asked directly if Gus would call MLS games. His answer was "we have not talked to Gus at all about calling MLS but he does enjoy calling soccer games"

    If I had to guess, I bet Gus calls the US Nats games on Fox.
     
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  10. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS wouldn't get money it does without US games packaged together.

    Gus is horrible. Dave O'Brien calling 2006 World Cup games for ESPN is who he reminds me of. Doesn't know the game and FOX thinks he can learn on the job.

    FS2 is still SD here in Ohio for cable customers. Problem I have with the deal is FOX never puts an effort into soccer broadcasts. Be it Euro games or MLS. Their coverage is terrible.
     
  11. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Holy shit, I had no idea he was 28..legitimately could pass for 40+:

    [​IMG]
     
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  12. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is a symbiotic relationship which is why they are paired together.

    MLS brings the content in terms of hours and US Soccer brings a small amount of high profile games.

    But make no mistake about, the deal was in the large majority MLS.

    As I am sure you saw in the press conference, it was 95% focused on MLS with just a small mention of US Soccerwhich obviously made sense since the bulk of the deal was MLS based
     
  13. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah he does look old but was born in 1985.

    When you factor in most good announcers don't really peak until late 30's through their 40's, I believe he is someone who we should allow to find his ceiling. He has a strong base to build off of and I really hope he moves full time to Fox next year.
     
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  14. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this interview from last June gives you a good idea of where Strong is coming from
     
  15. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Some excerpts from an article on how Fox is viewing Gus Johnson's work:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mo...ohnson-world-cup-espn-mark-jackson/?eref=sihp

    I personally dislike Wynalda more than Johnson. Wynalda to me doesn't seem to have any gravitas and is too chatty for the in-match commentary, but I think he would be great as the halftime analyst.
     
  16. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JP Dellacamera is still employed by FOX so he's another option. I wouldn't mind seeing him behind the mic again.
     

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