US N+A World Cup Discussion Part Deux

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Jun 21, 2014.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Hope no one is so crazy to think, based on that, that we're going to win it in 2018.

    If we make QFs playing more than bunker, I'll be happy.
     
  2. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    No we have to make the Semis first, 2018 and then we win it at home in 2022.
     
  3. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    I would say at this point, Mexico is expected to make the second round and challenge for the quarters. Hard to argue otherwise given their history.
     
  4. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And if they don't give us the cup in 2022 we should invade Qatar and take it anyway. I mean it's Qatar, will anybody really give a shit?
     
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  5. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Well that make extremist jihadist' not like us...oh wait....
     
  6. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really? Because it's Costa RIca. You think we don't routinely handle them? In 2013 we beat them 3 out of 3. We are a better team. In a group with Costa Rica we will get results. Not so with the 3 Lions.

    The 3 Lions doesn't "underperform". They perform at the level you would expect given their players. Which are not at the level of the US national team. Maybe in the future they will be better , who knows. But now, every team hopes to be grouped with England in a tournament. Few hope to be grouped with the US. That says something.
     
  8. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    United States
    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude, if you're trying to troll in the England forum it's a few doors from here.
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Nope, 2 out of 3.

    With A-teams, we won one (1-0) and they won one (3-1). So if it were a global score, they won 3-2.
     
  11. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    And let's face it. They had the run of play in the Snow game. The US was holding on for dear life at the end in Denver.
     
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  12. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    The way I see it with CRC is that our starting XIs are more or less comparable, we have a slight edge in talent through the 23, and then past that we have a significant advantage because of our depth. If we lined up a U.S. "C team" vs. a CRC "C team" (as in, players in spots 47-70 in our respective pools) I think we win 8 out of 10 times or more.

    Unfortunately for us, only one team plays qualifiers. CRC are a legitimate team with legitimate talent, especially in their usual starting XI which is what matters most.

    And they absolutely had the better run of play overall vs. us in qualifying. The snow game easily could have ended in a draw and it would have been a fair result.
     
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  13. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Run of play don't win games.
     
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  14. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Ya don't say!

    Way to simplify my argument.
     
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  15. Albirrojo

    Albirrojo Member

    Aug 27, 2004
    Run of Play doesn't win games but statistically? Run of Play must have the edge. Just witness some of the 120 minute games in the World Cup.
     
  16. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It's pretty good for indicating which is the better team.
     
  17. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Seeing make that incredible run makes me think how could we have played if Altidore was healthy....that guy was a HUGE part of our attack.

    Without him last minute really hurt us. Oh well...same could have been said about Davies in 2010. It's a CURSE!!
     
  18. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Shots: USA 6 CRC 9
    On Goal: 1: 4
    Corners: 3: 4
    Fouls: 17: 14
    Total pass: 403: 292
    Pass Accuracy: 73%: 67%
    Possession: 57.3%: 42.7%

    So yeah they didn't actually dominate the run of play. I watched the match and their shots were mostly stuff from distance right at the keeper. Otherwise they had squat.
     
  19. vmax71

    vmax71 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 11, 2002
    high desert
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. It's a lack of depth. Every team loses guys. We have no replacements.
     
  20. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Agudelo was the replacement for Altidore.
     
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  21. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    No one said they "dominated" the run of play, but that they had the better of it.

    And to present a stat showing us having ONE shot on goal the whole match (the goal), and saying CRC had "squat" is pretty rich. Seems we were the ones who had squat.
     
  22. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Dempsey's goal was a big chance. CRC had shots from distance at the keeper. Perspective.
     
  23. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    This isn't even worth arguing over at this point since you're so clearly grounded in your opinion and nothing will change it. I know what I saw that day.
     
  24. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    They have a better coach too, let's be fair to Pinto.
     
  25. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006

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