US Goalkeeper discussion thread - Part III

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by ussoccer97531, Nov 15, 2017.

  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No.
     
  2. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Well, sadly his injuries is what doomed him. All I'm saying is I suppose after their u-23 failures, JK froze them out. Maybe they deserved it, maybe they didn't. Maybe MLS was paying keepers a decent wage that very few decided to risk going abroad. Maybe foreign clubs didn't want to overpay for US keepers. But it def has had an effect on our current state of keepers. JK relying on Rimando and then Guzan going missing while he recalled Howard. Hamid and Johnson (perhaps its their own fault) should have taken initiative and maybe USSOCCER should have done more to get them out of MLS.
     
  3. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why does playing in Scandinavia make someone a better goalkeeper?
     
  4. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    You are just plain wrong! JK didnt do anything to Hamid. He gave him a chance and he blew it. He invited to camp and he was injured again and again and again. Hamid has never been international quality and really hasnt shown the potential to be. He sucks at basic things that a 12 year old goalkeeper should be working on and likely have mastered. His poor technique lets him down in MLS and would only get worse at higher levels. It also probably contributed to all his injuries over the years.
     
  5. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Yeah, my personal inclination would be to start Steffen for most of the tournament. But if ThE sYsTeM is the priority, then maybe Berhalter has to move in a different direction.
     
  6. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    It'd have been a far easier starting place to get a leg up.
     
  7. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I dont know about "someone", but it provided Hamid competition and consequences for his mistakes. Instead of putting his head down earning his way back onto the field, he came back to the exact team where he plays every game no matter what. Since his play has dropped off since 2014 and he is making the same mistakes over and over, he apparently needs that external competition to get him to improve. Maybe he doesnt, but he sure isnt improving in MLS. I continue to ask why he gets talked about in USN&A as he is nowhere near the team.
     
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  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course if they got a European visa it would help a lot but MLS games are broadcast across Europe while Nordic games are not.
     
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  9. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Solid point. An EU work permit is holding our boys back but isn't it far easier for them to get moves to Scandinavia or Belgium/NL than the English or Scottish leagues? I mean, obviously those smaller needs need to have the $$ and confidence to drop on a foreign goalkeeper.
     
  10. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Former Yank Abroad goalkeeper Matt Pyzdrowski - now writer for the Athletic - analyzed Steffen's error in the Venezuela match. Pyzdrowski splits the blame among Steffen and his teammates (for a lack of urgency in getting open).

    https://theathletic.com/1030858/201...zack-steffens-recent-mistakes-with-the-usmnt/

    Some nice graphics illustrating the play are hidden behind the paywall.
     
  11. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It will also help Steffen get an English work permit if MC actually wants to play him or if another Premier league team wants him on loan.
     
  12. manfromgallifrey91

    Swansea City
    United States
    Jul 24, 2015
    Wyoming, USA
    Club:
    Southampton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Steffen is moving to Fortuna Dusseldorf on loan. If he cant garner a lot of PT, I do believe Horvath will pass him on the depth chart, or I should say, should pass him.
     
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  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
     
  14. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Just a name to keep an eye on.
     
  15. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s one tall ass 16 year old.

    Looks like a young Black Gandalf hanging out in the Shire.
     
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  16. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    You wrong for that 1 :p:p:p:p
     
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  17. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well there were five wizards in the Order of Istari. Only three were known.
     
  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #918 Pegasus, Aug 2, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2019
    BTW, what is everyone's opinion on Jesse Gonzalez this year? Just saw a report that he has the highest passing accuracy among keepers and has not made any errors that led to goals so far.
     
  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Needs to be in Europe next year. I'd love to finally see a US keeper in Spain or Italy.
     
  20. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I usually preface my comments about MLS players by saying that I normally just watch the couple nationally televised games each week and thus only see each team play maybe 3-4 games a season. With that caveat, the couple FCD games I've seen, I thought Gonzalez was very good (I think the game at Atlanta in particular). I'd prefer him getting a call-up over Johnson or Miller, if only because he's a bit younger and presumably has more room to improve.
     
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  21. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    ^^^^^ this is exactly where I am. I’d prefer him over others
     
  22. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    #922 butters59, Aug 2, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2019
    He is the most talented American keeper. If only he was Mexico eligible we would have a dozen "cup him now" threads.
     
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  23. gogorath

    gogorath Member

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I really don't understand why he isn't our third keeper.
     
  24. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    since our top two are relatively young, I can see wanting a more seasoned GK as the #3. no reason Gonzalez cant be called into camp and force the issue.
     
  25. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    dont see it. too many fundamental issues with his game.
     

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