Unpopular USMNT or US Soccer Opinions

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by GiallorossiYank, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    SJ Earthquakes/Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think this is necessarily an "unpopular" opinion, but I hope we never call Nagbe up ever again.

    I'd like to call up players who want to be there. And this is 3 times now. No thanks. He's certainly not a lock-starter for this team, so I don't think we're losing much.
     
  2. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nagbe, to me, is one of those players whose legend has greatly exceeded his actual ability. I've been watching him for years, and I'm still trying to figure out what everyone loves about him.
     
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  3. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1178 MPNumber9, Aug 31, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 31, 2019
    Your patience is rewarded:

    https://web.archive.org/web/2012081.../08/Klinsmann-teleconference-quote-sheet.aspx
    Mind you, he'd already played under Bradley. He does finally get cap-tied in 2013, but doesn't even get another call-up until the World Cup almost a year and a half later. That's highly irregular.

    https://www.theringer.com/2018/6/5/...ory-jurgen-klinsmann-sunil-gulati-bruce-arena
    None of us know for sure, but there's enough evidence to believe Chandler wasn't that committed to playing for the USA. What this has to do with other players like Nagbe, I have no idea. It seems like the burden is on you to prove this player was committed to playing for the US, since it seems important to you to believe that.
     
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  4. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Thanks.
     
  5. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You mean Landon Donovan?
     
  6. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Bill Hamid is a good keeper to have competing for the NT. Maybe not as the no.1 but surely no.2 or no.3
     
  7. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Never was on the Nagbe hype train.

    Guys I see as having a better ceiling than expected: Horvath (sabotaged by his own club though), Steffen, Sargent (hopefully not sabotaged by his coach), Adams (hopefully not ruined by injuries), Sabbi (hopefully someone is paying attention).

    Guys I see as having a lower ceiling than expected (and the reason this is in here): Pulisic. McKennie, Weah, Novakovich, Antonee Robinson, Tyler Boyd.
     
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  8. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 6, 2006
    I don't think you understand what sabotage means.

    the idea that horvath is somehow being wronged by his team is a myth. In europe they sign players to compete at positions you only get ur spot if ur elite. The idea that a place like club brugge was going to be like hey we have horvath lets not try to upgrade at goalie ever again is a joke. that isn't sabotage its called not being good enough.
     
  9. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're welcome to your opinion, of course.
     
  10. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nagbe can ball; he's just got to be deployed correctly. He was in the midfield of two different MLS Cup-winning squads. We've got better CM options emerging now, but Nagbe was no schmuck.
     
  11. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Wow.... I always wonder if certain people are really ignorant or just act dumb to twist things. I'd bet it is some of both in this case.

    I didnt "diss" Nagbe for his background. I am interested in any player that is eligible for the USMNT.... including dual nationals that have never stepped foot in the states and naturalized citizens. It is pretty odd that you would purposefully (?) misinterpret my post, place judgement and then describe a number of our players as having "mothers who were lucky enough to be nailed by a serviceman".

    It is also odd to me that someone would view a player with no association with the US who moved here in a better light than a player whose father served our country. I think I've seen you say that Nagbe "earned" it. This is weird to me as well as pretty much every other player who is eligible for the team is basically due to the luck of being born to American parents in America.

    I dont think Chandler is a great player, but think he is incredibly disrespected by people like you. He is repeatedly "dissed" for not being commited to the team when the call ups he didnt accept were before he committed to the team and suggesting an injured player might consider not playing. So I dont think Chandler was not committed is nearly as clear as you seem to make it. I only defend these attacks as they appeared to be out of a general dislike for the dual nationals.

    Nagbe on the other hand skipped out due to not getting the minutes he wanted and not feeling wanted. He did that in the last window before the Hex and those that hate Chandler, didnt seem to mind. He has now lied about not being in contact with national team and rejected callups, including the Gold Cup.

    https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2...rlington-nagbe-jurgen-klinsmann-usmnt-call-up

    Yet, you still defend him. I personally dont really care. The only thing that really ever bothered me about Nagbe is that he played like crap in 2017 after being gifted a starting spot. If he had played like he did in 2016 when he was being pushed to provide more, we probably would have gone to the World Cup.
     
  12. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Nagbe is a horrible soccer player. His soccer IQ is miserably low. He might be good at some skills competition, but there is no place in the international game for a role like the one he supposedly excels at. I generally dont care about MLS cups, but definitely not role players on those teams.
     
  13. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Nagbe can keep the ball, no one doubts that. But with the NT often he looked like he didn't know what to do with the ball after the keeping part. Not good.
     

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