Univision's Mexican Relatores

Discussion in 'Argentina' started by El Mandrake, Jun 21, 2006.

  1. Juan Luis Guerra

    Juan Luis Guerra Red Card

    Jun 11, 2001
    New York City
    Mi opinion:

    No soy ni Mexicano ni Argentino. Esto quiero decir que no tengo ningun problema dando mi opinion sobre este tema.

    Para empezar, los quiero a los dos. Los mexicanos son considerados los hombres mas machistas de latinoamerica, mientras que los argentinos los mas pedantes y creidos. Los mexicanos son nacionalistas al igual que los argentinos. Los mexicanos tienen mas influencia en los EE.UU que los argentinos. Esto les permite que su futbol sea considerado como de local. Solo mirar la cantidad de partidos mexicanos que se trasmiten cada semana. Casi superan a los de la MLS, ligas europeas y ligas de conmebol y concacaf juntas. Ya se imaginan. Los mexicanos pueden darse el lujo de jugar partidos en EE.UU como locales, incluso partidos impartantes a nivel internacionales, copa Toyota pre-libertadores y otras copas. Se dice que el jugar en USA les proporsiona un buen beneficio economico a los mexicanos. Por ejemplo, un partido jugado en el Home Depot Center a casa llena, deja mas beneficios que un partido jugado a casa llena en el Azteca. Pues todo el beneficio es en dolar y las entradas del azteca son baratas comparativamente hablando. Esto es positivo para los mexicanos. Los Argentinos en cambio no gozan de este privilegio.

    Los argentinos

    Ya viven miles y miles en los EE.UU, pero solo casi se radican en Miami dade o zonas cerca a esta. Se puede decir que en Miami una franquicia de la MLS que sea orientada a esta comunidad, podria dar sorpresas. Me gustaria ver un equipo en Miami que se llame Boca jr FC o algo asi. Sin embargo, lo argentinos tienen serios problemas de convivencia con otros grupos hispanos. Tienen como su mundo aparte. Esto no es bueno. Los aires europeos no te van a pagar tu hipoteca ni la renta, ni te van a comprar un carro. Tampoco hay que humillarse a los gringos y pretender ser como ellos. Esto es una verguenza. Tambien pensar que la opiniones de ellos es la validad y real. Todo esto tiene que acabar. Tenemos que ser hermanos todos. Todos sabemos que el futbol de argentino es lo mejor que tiene el continente. El mercadeo mexicano es mejor, pero Argentina supera a Mexico a nivel de clubes y a nivel de seleccion nacional. Esto creo que lo sabe todo el mundo, incluso hasta los propios mexicanos.

    JLG
     
  2. ElDivino

    ElDivino Member

    Nov 11, 2004
    LMFAO !!! Your absolutley right Mono Mario !!! i was making this exact observation the other day..honestly i dont kno why they do it. Thier is no logical explanation. Yo Soy Mexicano....and im always gonna support my country NO MATTER WHAT..but sometimes i have to say ENOUGH is ENOUGH..im tired of these tv stations (univision especially) elevating us up to something were not..and thier are mindless Mexicanos out there who dont kno anything about football and buy in to this shit. Dont get me wrong..i think we have a great squad and a good chance at beating Argentina tommorow..pero yo soy realista..se que va ser una chinga para lograr lo. I kno that we (Mexicanos) are the majority of hispanics in the u.s but this is the WC and thier are plently of hispanic people in the states that are NOT Mexicanos and would like equally biased broadcasting.

    oh yea...ALL the unvision commentators SUCK BALLS !!...Chila's little comments are strange at times...pablo ramirez is just a plain idiot...and bruno vain sounds like his singing when his talking..PATHETIC
     
  3. el gringo

    el gringo New Member

    Jul 25, 2005
    no where.
    i dont like him either he exagerates. my dad puts it on mute. so yea i dont like him. i like chila that guy is cool and that argen guy to.
     
  4. Vegnar

    Vegnar New Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    To the mesican fn campesino,limpiador de jardines,recogedor de frutas, illegal immigrante, que no saben leer y escribir y que suenan tan repugnante con sus:

    "Bueys, vatos, orales,MENdigos etc" <--- insert any repugnant spanish slang here.



    TODO los latinos los detestan en EEUU, son rateros, corruptos, por que no se vuelven a su cochino y desgraciado pais. Cuando veo a todo estos ignorantes en las noticias saltando la frontera y despues se ponen en las calles pidiendo trabajo y documentos, por favor siguan protestando en las calles para que los Americanos los saquen como perros de su pais.


    Si Mejico es muy lindo por que no protestan en Mejico DF y no en las calles de los EEUU??? Protesten a su gobierno que les den mejor vida y sin estan TAN orgullosos de mejico por que no se regresan a su horrible pais????

    Hay un dicho " Como Mejico no hay dos" Si gracias a Dios que como mejico no hay dos, se pueden imaginar que pasaria en el mundo si hubiera dos Mejicos???


    Argentina los van a aniquilar 3-0.
     
  5. mesican

    mesican New Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    San Diego
    La verdad estas pendejo. Por eso todos tus putos artistas se van a MEXICO envez de quedarse es esa M I E R D A de pais que es argentina. O no. Admitelo guey, estas arrdido por que no naciste MEXICANO.

    Y para el ******** que quiere que me limpie el culo, ya me lo limpie con tu banderita de C U L O, pero quedo mas sucio mi culo. La verdad quien chingados ponte azul de ******** en su bandera. La verdad que son bien M A R I C O N E S uds. Y saben que me vale verga so nos ganan el sabado.

    Si vas a isnultar por favor escribe el nombre bien es MEXICO no Mejico. Pinche analfabeto.

    Otra cosa RIVER PLATE no mames hablan espanol no ingles. Y es fuera de lugar no offside.

    Pendejos.
     
  6. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Che loko.. Dejate de joder.. No tengo nada en contra de los Mexicanos, al reves, tengo unos cuantos amigos que son Mexicanos.. Pero, los re-odio a los que son como este.. No quiero decir que todos sean asi, tambien he visto a algunos Argentinos que son unos idiotas, pero de verdad no soporto a los Mexicanos pelotudos como este.. No paran de hablar tonterias, y siempre vienen a pelear.. Andate a la reputa madre que te pario "mesican", y no vuelvas mas.. Chau!
     
  7. Vegnar

    Vegnar New Member

    Mar 26, 2005
    haha I did that on purpose, mejico deserves a mejico, isn't that what you guys already do ruin the spanish language?

    so i'ts mejico since I know you mejicanos hate it.


    Viva Argentina!
     
  8. mesican

    mesican New Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    San Diego
    No mames how the hell did we ruin the Language


    Dejate- Dejar

    Chau-Adios

    Come on you guys are making up words.

    Ya volvi y que ????
     
  9. BackDoorMan

    BackDoorMan New Member

    Sep 27, 2005
    I started watching all the games in ESPN but between them hyping up the US and pretty much giving me a run down of all the rules i got tired of it. I mean..I know the rules of the sport..why summarize them every 2 minutes? I then switched to Univison. I try to catch all the bruno and borja games because by far they are the best in univision. Pablo ramirez is a douchebag.." sabrooossa" that was an all time low. Either way for the worldcup we're F*cked. SO i just combine it. Some ESPN and Some Univision.
     
  10. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ok, you can't say "we make up words".. That's like Shaq telling you "you suck at free throws"..

    Seriously, though.. I'm sick of hearing things like "Hay que parquear el carro"... Plus, critizing Vegnar for typing "Mejico", yet your username is "mesican".. May I ask, what the fuck is a "mesican"?
     
  11. rios

    rios Member

    Jun 9, 2006
    Club:
    Villarreal CF
    you don't know the pain if ESPN isn't your only provider of the WC.

    world of painnnnnnnnnnnn :mad:
     
  12. mesican

    mesican New Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    San Diego
    You may ask, its called a nickname, the same cane be said about your nickname Vegnar.
    And if you had any brains by they way you speak it looks like you dont. Parquear is used here in the states. It like Cubans, Colombians, Panamenians, Bolivianos and other Latinos use the phrase "aseguranza de carro" dude its "seguro de auto".

    So please DEJAR de Joder

    If you are goin to get in to a argument please know facts.
     
  13. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So you are basically saying non-existant words that are used in the USA are not considered "made up words"? :confused:
     
  14. mesican

    mesican New Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    San Diego
    What I am telling you is that in Mexico we dont make up words. Here in the States uneducated people from all over Latin American make up words.

    And my original point was to the ignorant fool that says we butcherd the Spanish language.

    How so ?

    Because Nahuatl was incorporated into it ?

    That only enhanced the language.

    Reason I said you guys really butcher the language is beacuse you still use the Vosotros, which is considered dead, by the Real Academia Espanola (4got the tilde sue me) the foremost authority in the Spanish Language. And because you guys have a fascination with always adding "ate" to al,pst every word.
     
  15. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ok.. So? Why are you private messaging me requesting a reply.. Really, there is no response to give to you.. That's what I was referring to when I said "you are the type of Mexican who always just wants to fight".. If you didn't, you would just wait for someone to give you a reply.. Did you see me sending you messages saying "waiting for your reply"? No.. I waited for over 30 minutes, really not caring if you replied or not..
     
  16. lond2345

    lond2345 Member

    Aug 19, 2002
    USA
    You sure? From watching years and years of Mexican soccer the biggest impression I get is that most Mexican commentators got on tv due to connections but not actual talent or studying in university for their field.

    Of course we all know that connections matter in every country but at least the FSE commentators from south america you can tell they took some classes to at least be somewhat professional. You can tell they put some study into their profession. You watch the guys on tv azteca and the other Mexican channels you think immediately they must have connections to have gotten the job because they sound so bad. You wonder if they even know much about futbol a lot of them just complain and complain about what each team needs to do to win, how they shouldn't do this or that like if they were the coaches.

    Their analysis is so simple I could do as good as job as them with no experience. All I have to do is say "they need to stop throwing centros," "they need to be more vertical," "they need to get the ball to this guy," i hear this in like every game to Mexican commentators that is analysis, I could do that for a living!

    I find myself yelling at the tv saying stop telling the players how to play just comment on the action please!
     
  17. mesican

    mesican New Member

    Apr 26, 2006
    San Diego
    Damn skippy I am one of those Mexicans that like to fight.
     
  18. jotadia

    jotadia New Member

    Jun 21, 2001
    Miami
    Club:
    Atletico Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It should be "estacionar el coche"
     
  19. jotadia

    jotadia New Member

    Jun 21, 2001
    Miami
    Club:
    Atletico Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They need to use former coaches or players as commentators more. Jose Luis Chilavert has been a pleasant surprise. Has good comments to make about the tactics going on in the game and is not afraid to express his opinion
     
  20. efernandez9

    efernandez9 Member

    Jun 6, 1999
    Joe Pool Lake
    I found the positive side to them:


    well, if I have to live with them for 16 more days I might as well find the good side.

    I learned yesterday how to call a player from TOGO
    I learned today how to say GOL in german.
    I learned that eliminated teams' jerseys are only 35 euros (the official ones)


    and that is about it, folks

    have you learned anything yet?
     
  21. sohka88

    sohka88 New Member

    Jun 21, 2005
    A word like that is made up by ignorant people. Spanglish for the win.
     
  22. CheveLoco

    CheveLoco Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    San Diego, CA
    i think u need to follow up on guys like Emilio Fernando Alonzo and Rafael Puente, two of the best commentators in Mexico...
     
  23. cordobesenUS

    cordobesenUS New Member

    Nov 12, 2005
    Austin-TX



    No sir, you are the ignorant, vosotros is still used in Spain, I lived there three years and used it everyday. Go inform yourself before making ignorant comments.
     
  24. sohka88

    sohka88 New Member

    Jun 21, 2005
    Yesterday univision and Fox sport was unlistenable.... the mexican guy with Jorge ramos is an idiot. I cannot stand him. He said, argentina still cannot beat us, after 90 minutes we were tied. That is a tie. Who cares, you are going home.

    Also no one is saying anything bad about mexico... they are ONLY talking about mexico but no one says anything bad. I rewatched the match and the only thing Mexico did is bunker down the entire second half.. Argentina still had crespo miss an easy open net goal, saviola missing a 1 on 1 with the goalie, and having yet another legal goal disallowed.
     
  25. FMF_LFP

    FMF_LFP Red Card

    Aug 19, 2005
    Piss Peru

    You seem to be blind and sure dont know much knowledge of soccer. Mexico didnt bunker down the second half ,Mexico had 2 very unfortunate injuries i nthe 1st half which weren't expected. Of course, Mexico's agressivness was lesser i nthe 2nd half due to this unfortunate circumstances , but they still gave some good attacking plays.
     

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