PBP: United States vs Brazil; 9/7; 7:30pm ET

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by AutoPenalti, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member

    Jul 6, 2006
    pin it to the top

    for the record it is true though

    I mean its useful for miazga/brooks to play together and for adams/mckennie to be together, for robinson to get minutes but other then that it was a waste of time.

    the other funny thing was to look at the subs. they put on acosta, roldan, delgado....I mean how many 6/8 do you need to see in a match? also having adams as a right mid/wing is a waste of his minutes and it makes zero sense. This is what stewart is supposed to be there for and it was disappointing to hear that he was there just watching and learning. The guy literally called in 7 cmids and not one is a 10. His other mids include Weah who is not a midfielder he is an attacker/winger and arriola who really looks like more of a wingback(which if you think about it might be a great fit for him) and Green who also isn't an outside mid because he can't help defensively at all. He put green in front of robinson against BRAZIL.

    There is just so much that makes me angry about the entire thing and davey boy even still being there.

    Stewart is really also pissing me off with his interview last night and what he has said in the few days before. He hasn't interviewed anyone.............that was literally job #1 for him...but he thinks he'll start doing it at some point...well yeah I would assume at some point they need a coach. Then on top of that he had no input on the roster.

    The guy was hired to find a coach and put his imprint on the roster/pool...what has he done to this point? He figured out the 'principles of play'....he is looking for...that should've taken five minutes. At this point I am not sure why he is even there. What a job though he is getting paid...hasn't done anything but he thinks he will be doing something in the future....us soccer amazing stuff.
     
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  2. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is waiting for the season to be over. I believe our next coach will come from MLS.
     
  3. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Really? I thought our CD of Brooks and Miazga played well. Steffen is a good GK. Trapp played well in possession, I just feel Brazil chose not to pressure our DM and he would have struggled. I think Adams played well and has good upside. For me McKennie didn't play particularly well but I don't see him as offensively as most do. Offensively we were weak. Wood and Arriola were particularly poor. Green was decent, better than I thought he would play. We had nice corners and free kicks but needed Pulisic and probably one more offensive spark. I still think Altidore is much better than Wood. And hope Sargent gets some Bremen first team minutes.
     
  4. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member

    Jul 6, 2006
    great thinking waiting for the season to get over while you have the part time coach taking shots at pulisic and because after missing the world cup...who is in a hurry I mean all they did was miss the world cup that doesn't mean you can bother mls clubs. Davey boy is taking shots at pulisic for not putting country over club but the gm on the other side is said club over country...strange.
     
  5. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think Altidore is better than Wood. Good is faster and better in the air for being shorter than Altidore. Altidore is better at linking and making the final pass.

    P.S. Sargent played this morning and scored his first 1st team goal. He was playing left wing and got the final pass from Pizarro, the forward that took his 1st team slot.
     
  6. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    Did you read what I wrote? I didn't say his passing was a problem in this game, but you can tell he's not comfortable on the ball. He has poor ball control for a CB and doesn't move as fluently when he's carrying the ball as he does when he's running after it. Try watching Brooks handle the ball and Miazga handle the ball, and tell me there isn't a big difference in comfort when in possession.
     
  7. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    #507 SUDano, Sep 8, 2018
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2018
    You wrote:
    'I don't know why people say Miazga has become a good passer. He's improved, but that part of the game is a big difficulty for him.'
    You are wrong. You didn't only comment on stylistically you also commented on results or lack of. Brooks does look more comfortable, who cares, Miazga looks good too, based on results.
     
  8. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
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    What does this refer to?
     
  9. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    I don't see anything there that makes mention of his passing performance in this game as opposed to a larger discussion about his passing.

    You mention who cares. I'll tell you why it matters. Brazil didn't press in this game. Miazga was not an issue in that regard, but I think its important that 1-11 we have a team of players who are comfortable on the ball, and can make plays, whether thats defensive players advancing the ball up the field under pressure or attacking players breaking down the defense. That is maybe the most important part of the game. We have so few of those players, and instead rely on too many aerial CB's or fast full-backs who completely wilt and cough up the ball when under pressure from good players. The last two teams we played (Brazil and France) have very few of those types of players who are passengers in the offensive or possession game.

    Its still to be seen how Miazga can help or not help in that regard, IMO. I think there's a role for him on the NT, regardless, but if we are going to have a good team this cycle that shows improvements from what we've seen the last 15-20 years (like many predict we could see), I think that requires trying to play football against good teams. You need to leave your end of the field more than a couple times per half. We can always revert to size, grit, athleticism lineup. I think Miazga is the type of player who is very good out of possession, but doesn't help when we are in possession.
     
  10. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    He writes that he still struggles with passing in a post game forum right after the Brazil game is nationally televised, but you think he's talking about all the times he watched Miazga play for Vitesse and Nantes. :rolleyes:
     
  11. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    I guess you agree with him. So be it. I don't. I think he does a very good job of moving the ball and passing out of the back. I think he has locked down the other CB next to Brooks. No one is close for me.
     
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  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    While Miazga and Brooks looked fine, let's not forget: we lost 2-0 at home against a team with players that had much less to prove than ours. Actually, I don't think Brazil went full 100%.

    So for all the praise those two are getting, there's that fact. Brazil seemed quite happy with beating us 2-0.
     
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  13. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    And the fact they were gifted a penalty and we didn't have Pulisic, we are still not as good as Brazil. All them facts too.
     
  14. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member

    Jul 6, 2006
    it refers to the part time coach of us soccer taking shots at pulisic.
     
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  15. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    I searched and found nothing.
     
  16. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe this is what he's referring to...

    “What I want to see from him is a desire, a passion, energy, excitement and a great effort,” Sarachan said of Pulisic. “That should be each and every player that we bring in, and Christian is no different. … Look at the Bolivia game. It was an outlier from that standpoint. Yes, he was tired. He was coming off a long season—whatever the reasons. But when you come in with the national team, those boxes have to be checked.”

    In May, they weren’t.

    “We needed a little bit more, and I think he knows that, and so, like I said, he’s got the potential to be a major player for the senior national team,” Sarachan added. “Will he maybe be a captain one day? He’s got the ability. We all know. So when he comes in, I’m hoping that he can be influential and bring the group together in an infectious way, and make sure he’s all in, because we need him. He’s that good.

    I don't know if I'd say that's taking a shot at Pulisic.
     
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  17. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
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    Thanks. To me that seems like typical coaching speak regarding young stars.
     
  18. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member

    Jul 6, 2006
    ok just point out when he said that about anyone else.

    and it was in an article thats sole topic was to criticize pulisic for not being with the national team and his 'effort' in the only match he has played. The article even went as far as to say if pulisic plays for his club soon after the break people includeing the coach should not just criticize him more but start to question if he should be allowed to play for the national team. So just an fyi the writer used the quotes because he felts that what they quotes were doing.
     
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  19. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    Pulisic will be with the US MNT far longer than Sarachan.
     
  20. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point I'm not so sure
     
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  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Puli needs a special setup created ad hoc for him to flourish. That he's technically gifted makes it worth it, IMO.
     
  22. autogolazzo

    autogolazzo Member

    Mar 4, 2007
    Are you out of your mind? He's the face of the USMNT and our best player. You don't think he's going to last until next year (unlike Sarachan, who won't)?
     
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  23. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sarachan is an Idiot. He might remember the game against T&T where Pulisic was one of about 3 players who showed drive and passion. And one of two that showed his talent in impressive measure. To be referring to a freakin' Bolivia friendly, at the end of a season, as grounds for slamming Pulisic.... If this gent becomes USMNT manager, then Stewart needs a brainscan.
     
  24. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    May 4, 2002
    Nah. Current brain scanning technology lacks the resolution to show anything.

    I really think the chances Sarachan gets the US head coaching job is somewhere between diddly and squat. Of course that should be taken with a grain of salt as I thought Trump's chances were at the same level.
     
  25. An Unpaved Road

    An Unpaved Road Member+

    Mar 22, 2006
    Club:
    --other--
    Ives Galarcep took the Sarachan quotes from a Sports Illustrated article and added his own angle about questioning Pulisic's motivation. In the actual source of the quotes Sarachan was specifically asked about Pulisic at one point and answered, but also covered a bunch of other stuff.

    I see nothing worthy of getting worked up over in the original article. Players need to be focused and ready. I'd bet Pulisic has heard harsher words than that at a variety of levels he's played at thus far.
     

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