PBP: United States @ England; 11/15; 3:00 ET

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by AutoPenalti, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    How poorly is this match compared to the 2008 friendly? That 1 was wicked poor
     
  2. ShortyMac

    ShortyMac Member+

    Apr 10, 2011
    Ohio, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep.
     
  3. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    I'll take that and give you a "But We Beat Spain 2-0 in the Confed Cup in 20something"! Whoopee
     
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  4. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Who knows whether he still is or not?

    [​IMG]
     
  5. FanOfFutbol

    FanOfFutbol Member+

    May 4, 2002
    When I coached, many many years ago, I had a remedy for that. Every time I saw a player standing still when not open or not in position to receive a pass with another player looking to pass I added 10 20 yard wind sprints at the end of the next practice. After a couple of week of that I heard a LOT of players on the field yelling to others "MOVE!!"

    The match is thankfully over. CP and a couple of others looked mostly OK but the rest looked like they might compete in a decent rec league.

    Based on this pathetic performance I may not even bother to watch the next match. Italy will not, I think, just be going through the motions. They have something to prove to their fans and coaches so they may well really stomp on the US.
     
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  6. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This may indeed be our golden generation. That being said, we are a generation or two away from world dominance. And that's just players. How about the coaching?
     
  7. Jay510

    Jay510 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Madison, Wi
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it is just a friendly cant get too up or down about these games.

    Didnt see much flair though
     
  8. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    Thoughts

    -Bobby Wood is lazy and needs to get onside when a play initially breaks down instead of walking back.

    -Pulisic is going to have a frustuating career surrounded by garbage

    -Someone needs to remind Brad Guzan he is not Ederson, and we are not Manchester City. Stop trying to play out of the back repeatedly. This is not Atlanta.

    -Please make short passes on the GROUND when in tight spaces. lobbing it back and forth wastes precious time on the ball and allows the other team to close you down. Thats if they even bother to since we are inept.

    - We have issues
     
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  9. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    After viewing this match, what do you reckon Guzan's legacy with the NT will be?
     
  10. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We Suck....Again!
     
  11. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    chicago
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly WTF90 is a winning strategy. Hopefully Bagholder recognizes this and we find "the right midfield partners" for Wil.
     
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  12. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Cue Office Space flair post ...
     
  13. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Oh, I agree. That's one third the thrust of my "can we start playing the people who actually perform," argument. Center mid, keeper, back. For some reason forwards have to produce for us -- and a young forward can even jump queue by scoring. But the same ruthlessness is not applied to the lines of the field behind them. Play well or I'll find someone else.

    I don't get going out there game after game with DMs who can't win balls and break up possession. This to me is where I get into pecking order politics, "pedigree" over "performance."

    Like I said elsewhere, this should for the time being be renamed a U20 Team or U23 Team and treated accordingly. We have other options around the world besides you. We have a class coming up right after you. And another. And another. I kind of feel like we have this odd, rote dynamic of settling quickly on a unit even though this is not a veteran unit coming off of a world cup knockout stage. This is a team that missed the world cup and at the moment loses and ties most of the time. How on earth does that support the dibs system Sarachan is running.

    There needs to be constant experimentation, selection pressure, emphasis on performance. What bad rebuilding team runs their selection like they won conference last year? What team that loses or ties calls up the same basic people? Like definitional insanity.
     
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  14. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    I'd nominate him for Best Acting by a Goalkeeper in an Embarrassing Friendly Award
     
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  15. CU soccer

    CU soccer Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Panama City Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mckennie, Adams, Wood, Guzan, Acosta, Yedlin.... all trash. Just too dumb to play at the international level. Stop calling them in until they actually accomplish something.

    Pulisic and Sargent are literally the only 2 that shouldn’t be fighting for a spot in the starting 11.

    Saief and Lletget need to be in every camp. Those 2, along with CP and Sargent, actually have decent soccer IQ’s.

    Weah is just too streaky. So much potential and I hope he figures it out.
     
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  16. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    I totally disagree. I want the team challenged. What makes me violently ill is we then saddled them with an MLS reject caliber head coach for six freaking months after the World Cup. Bad enough the first six months, infinitely worse that we then did nothing for the past six. I understand Earnie needed time, that's fine, what isn't is that Earnie wasn't appointed for 8 freaking months which caused this cascade of events. If he wasn't interested in the winter of '17-'18 we should've moved on. We have the best young generation of talent we've had in at least fifteen years, and we wasted a crucial year of integrating them together under a new coach and new regime, instead allowing a placeholder to fiddle around for an entire freaking year.

    Totally unacceptable. The schedule was fine, it was everything else that was a problem.
     
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  17. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    This is what happens when you have an interim coach for 13 months: the players, who are not that good to begin with, stop giving a care.
     
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  18. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If that's our golden generation, we are massively f ucked.
     
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  19. Jay510

    Jay510 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Madison, Wi
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OMG JUST PICK A COACH ALREADY
     
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  20. BERich

    BERich Member

    Feb 3, 2012
    New England
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with your comment.

    I have said this for years; we don't play a style of soccer that matches our "culture." The US is the most aggressive country on the planet and we come out and try to play defensively. We are Tark's Running Rebels, not Smith's Tar Heels with the four corner offense. Until the idiots at USSF understand this we are probably toast.
     
  21. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    the funny thing about V/fana is that he always comes up big in big games.
     
  22. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Abso-effing-lutely! He made a fantastic pass 2 yds behind his intended recipient to kill what otherwise was an excellent flowing attack down the right.
     
  23. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Steffen and Horvath going forward. Hamid and Gonzalez in the pack.

    Poor Guzan. This was your last match.
     
  24. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this is right re Guzan. He's in line because "it's his turn" and now, his turn has passed.
     
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  25. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Sarachan puts Wood and Green up top and tells Pulisic and Weah to play outside dmid. The two guys who know how to score in that selection are Pulisic and Weah.

    Weah is a better 9 than Wood because Weah knows how to move the line and he can dribble some when needed.

    Let's hope we see something like that with Italy.

    The only players not getting time out of those who dressed were Cannon and Delgado.
     

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