PBP: United States @ Costa Rica; 10:00pm ET; Matchday thread

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by AutoPenalti, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's do this!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going with...

    ------------------Jozy--------------- (EJ if he's not good to go)
    ---F.Johnson---Dempsey---Donovan--
    ---------Bradley-------Jones-----------
    -Beasley--Gonzo----Besler---Orozco--- (yes I'm serious about Orozco)
    ---------------Howard-----------------
     
  5. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jones will not make it through the whole game without getting a yellow.
     
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  6. dna77054

    dna77054 Member+

    Jun 28, 2003
    houston
    any US tv besides BEIN sports? I did not see it listed on any of the spanish channels.
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope beIN has exclusive rights. You'll have to stream it if you can't find the network
     
  8. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    BeIN doesn't net stream, last I checked. US Soccer does the match day tracker. It does suck. I thought it was on ESPN2; but I had misremembered.

    US Soccer has its match tracker; which is lame, but better than nothing.

    Also, if you live near a chapter of American Outlaws, they have official pubs for viewing:

    http://www.theamericanoutlaws.com/chapters#map_top

    Other web searches will likely get you results too.
     
  9. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Not what I would do but fits Klinsmann's rote dicta

    ----------------------------ej(johannsson 55')---------
    ----fabian----------------dempsey-----------zusi(dono 67)
    -----------------------jones------bradley-------------
    ---beezer------besler--------------------gonzo----cameron---
    ----------------------------howard------------------------




    I would go

    ------------------------ej-------------
    --johannsson-----dempsey--------bedoya(dono)
    -------------bradley--------cameron-----------
    --parky-----besler-----------gonzo-----fabian----
    -------------------------gk-----------------------

    Bedoya starts to help Fab out on Campbell and Oviedo. Dono could also come on for EJ at the half and we have the forward 4 as

    -------------johannsson-------dempsey--------
    ---dono---------------------------------------bedoya(zusi)

    With zusi relieving Bedoya when he tires.

    We would have to see how things are going.
     
  10. Goldtone

    Goldtone Member+

    Aug 8, 2013
    California
    Club:
    Udinese Calcio
    So ready for this.

    There's a chance I might not get to somewhere with coverage, which of those streaming places is okay? Anyone else download these site's players?
     
  11. moork23

    moork23 Member

    Mar 8, 2008
    Atlanta, Ga
    --------------------donovan----johannsson----------
    --------fj--------------------------------------dempsey-----------
    -----------------------jones------bradley-------------
    ---beasley------besler--------------------gonzalez----cameron---
    ----------------------------hower------------------------
     
  12. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    What I predict:

    ----------------Donovan------------------------------
    --------------------------------Dempsey--------------
    -------F Johnson----------Jones--------Zusi---------
    ----------------------Bradley--------------------------
    ---Beasely-----Besler-----Gonzalez-----Cameron---
    ----------------------Howard--------------------------

    That's what I think we'll see. Of course; that all hinges on whether the Altidore injury keeps him out of the game. But, Bedoya has been playing right back at his club. So, I could see JK putting Cameron at right middle back if he wants to get Bedoya at the right back. But, since we haven't seen that at the international level yet, then I won't predict it. I think JK would like the extra attacker. And if he's like me, he's weary of that one or two mistakes that Gonzalez makes each game.

    I also think that JK may make it a priority to get Diskerud into the starting line-up if he goes with a more offensive strategy. If he does that; then obviously Johnson or Zusi would be the most likely players to not start. Unfortunately, Jones's spot is ridiculously safe despite his propensity to make bonehead plays.

    Brooks for Gonzalez might be the most likely miss. If JK feels good enough about him, he may start him to get him cap tied and not have to use a sub upon a defender.

    What I'd like to see:


    ----------------E Johnson------------------------------
    --------------------------------Dempsey----------------
    ---------Donovan----------Beckerman--------Zusi----
    ----------------------Bradley----------------------------
    ---F Johnson-----Besler-----Brooks-----Cameron----
    ----------------------Howard---------------------------

    That gives the US the most attack options IMO. And if you go up 2, then you can bring Jones in for Bradley, who is on yellow. Beckerman could then switch to the back mid. Zusi, Beckerman, Bradley also offer stellar service and EJ, Deuce and Captain America are solid play makers. F Johnson is a good wild card on the wing too.
     
  13. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Bedoya and Johannson (at midfield) ahead of Donovan? Cameron in the midfield? I know he does it at club level. But, I haven't seen enough at the international level to want that.
     
  14. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no Altidore, makes things hard to predict
    this is what i think JK will do
    -----donovan - dempsey
    fabian -----------------zusi
    ------ bradley - jones
    beas - besler - omar - parkhurst
    ----------- howard

    this is what id like to see
    donovan - dempsey - zusi
    ------- bradley - jones
    ------------ cameron
    fabian - besler - omar - parkH
    ------------ guzan

    i think having these players out there gives us high possession and enough D
    the middle of the field is completely controlled
    CR would have to attack from the outside
    IF, wer are down and need a goal or more attacking, we could sub in AJ or EJ
    Mix, Bedoya and Beckerman slide in easily if needed

    hopefully, we have a 2 goal lead late, so we can sub in Brooks
    *

    someone post the Yellow Card, watch
     
  15. jaxonmills

    jaxonmills Member+

    Aug 26, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would you want Beckerman ahead of Bradley?

    At least lately, Cameron has been more likely to play in the midfield at the international level than he has been at Stoke. It's not something he regularly does at club level these days.
     
  16. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Beckerman is not in that line-up. And that's the what I predict line-up, not the what I want line-up either.

    I don't mind seeing Cameron getting utility minutes at midfield from time to time. But, I think we generally have a host of better options than him otherwise. And he's a decent defender at a time when we are desperately seeking to find ourselves defensively.
     
  17. jaxonmills

    jaxonmills Member+

    Aug 26, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In your "What I'd like to see:" lineup, you put Beckerman ahead of Bradley in the midfield. Go look, you'll see it...
     
  18. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Brooks very well may start anyways. I think people are conservatively predicting Omar/Cameron/Besler as midbacks. But, if Brooks shows well in practice, I can definitely see it happening; especially if JK is serious about having Brooks in the back four by the 2014 WC. He'll want to get him that pivotal experience.
     
  19. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Okay. But, you had posted my prediction line-up instead. Why would I want Beckerman ahead of Bradley though? I think Bradley is a more stabilizing force on defense and the US traditionally likes to start their attacks through him. None of that means that he can't go forward and have Beckerman or whoever cover for him. You definitely want Bradley advancing forward as the short game progresses, since he's sharper than Beckerman.

    For aerial service into the box, Beckerman is actually a bit better from certain spots imo. He's a bit better at that curling ball. And Bradley is otherwise the better overall passer. And certainly, if you want that 40 yard ball over the top, then Bradley from the back mid spot is the guy to do it.
     
  20. jaxonmills

    jaxonmills Member+

    Aug 26, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I posted your entire quote. Click to expand.

    I just find it interesting that you think that, because Beckerman never plays as an 8, ever. Bradley often does.

    I could understand using Bradley as your 6 in some cases, but I can't understand using Bradley at the 6 while using Beckerman at the 8.
     
  21. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    #21 PremierUSA, Sep 6, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 6, 2013
    Ah. My bad on the quote. If you have a 4-1-3-1-1. Then I'm not so sure that calling something a 6 or 8 is quite representative when that system is based upon a more even dispersal of midfielders/duties. Beckerman has played back midfielder and mid center midfielder though.
     
  22. jaxonmills

    jaxonmills Member+

    Aug 26, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe this terminology will catch on. I've never heard of Beckerman playing for the US as anything other than the most defensive midfielder. I'd switch them, but then again I'd also play Jones, Cameron, Kljestan, or Diskerud as Bradley's partner before Beckerman.
     
  23. PremierUSA

    PremierUSA Member

    Sep 2, 2013
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Maybe, he only has played back defensive midfielder. That's what I think he played in the Gold Cup. I thought I had seem him play higher on the pitch before that though.

    I could see wanting to avoid a Bradley, Beckerman duo simply because they are both below average for speed. But, with all the yellows, I was thinking of maybe doing it this one time because CR is not that athletic and because if you went up a couple goals, you'd want to consider Beckerman sliding back to take Bradley's place if you substituted him out. Plus, with Altidore out, I like having as many players who can deliver solid service to EJ for a potential header or sprint out goal.
     
  24. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I'm listening to at 6 AM

     
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  25. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    http://firstrowus1.eu/ Can be hit or miss on quality, but is the go to standard for streams. No need to download anything, just a shit ton of adverts...
     

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